[split] Ethics - parental responsibility re: children

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

That’s not proof, that’s simply an assertion. You make the unjustified assumption that the festering fucktangle [nod to awty] that is your life applies to everyone’s life.

Boru

You really think it's just me? You don't think all people suffer? Because they do. Everyone suffers. And technically speaking, any amount or level of suffering is unacceptable, because it doesn't need to happen in the first place, because no one needs to have children. It's a completely unnecessary and unethical thing to do, and only a bad person would defend this action.

Of course everyone suffers. I was objecting to your claim that suffering always outweighs non-suffering, and that consequently, life is more bad than good. That’s an empirical claim and as such needs to be supported by evidence. You have none.

You simply have no way to measure the amount of suffering vs not-suffering in the lives of people you’ve never met and will never meet. Without going into details, I’ve experienced levels of suffering that would make you gasp with disbelief, but there’s no question in my mind that my life has been more good than bad.

Furthermore, the ‘goodness’ of life is better thought of as exponential rather than linear.

Boru