[split] Ethics - parental responsibility re: children

[Aegon]

What a useless statement lmao

Agreed, particularly given the recipient - but you never know.  As soon as we posit that there's some ethical obligation to children vis-a-vis the relative terribleness of the world (vague and unspecified as it is), we've asserted that any moral agent capable of influencing that situation is responsible, in some sense, for it.  This wouldn't start and stop with parents and be a one sided demand that the world be better -for us- by the labor of others.  

Now, if we don't believe in such a responsibility or in the mere possibility of improvement, it makes no sense - granted... but we've foreclosed on that objection by asserting such an obligation in the first place.

No man, I mean that when someone is in a depressive loop, their brain is feeding them certain thoughts. Telling them "just take responsibility of your life and make it better" is a useless statement because what is that going to do for them? Do you think their mind is really going to go: "Oh gee, he's right! I will make my life better! How simple!" 

Forget the whole "is it ethical to have kids" shtick, the kid is just depressed. This isn't an actual philosophical convo, dude just needs mental health services.