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[split] Ethics - parental responsibility re: children
RE: Ethics
(March 2, 2022 at 11:34 am)Ahriman Wrote:
(March 2, 2022 at 11:19 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: State your axioms, define your variables, and show your proof.
All people brought into this world will suffer in some way/shape/form, and the "good" does not outweigh the "bad", really not even close. Is that not proof enough?

Antinatalism ftw.

(March 2, 2022 at 11:48 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Yes, it's just you.

Not true. It's also me and other antinatalists. And my life is just fine, thank you. There's a big difference between refusing to begin a life and wanting to end one. Just like how there's a big difference to recognizing that the world would be a better place if certain holy books never existed on the one hand and actually advocating to burn them on the other hand.

You say it's just this one person but you are wrong. Antinatalism is a thing. There are lots of us. A large minority.

Adoption FTW. Better to help lives that already exist rather than add to the problem. And, yes, humanity is a problem. All arguments are ultimately question begging on some level. If you don't share the intuition then that isn't my problem. It's clear to me and others who see it.
Schopenhauer Wrote:The intellect has become free, and in this state it does not even know or understand any other interest than that of truth.

Epicurus Wrote:The greatest reward of righteousness is peace of mind.

Epicurus Wrote:Don't fear god,
Don't worry about death;

What is good is easy to get,

What is terrible is easy to endure
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RE: Ethics - by The Grand Nudger - March 2, 2022 at 11:19 am
RE: Ethics - by Ahriman - March 2, 2022 at 11:34 am
RE: Ethics - by Disagreeable - March 3, 2022 at 7:11 pm
RE: Ethics - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 2, 2022 at 11:40 am
RE: Ethics - by Ahriman - March 2, 2022 at 11:45 am
RE: Ethics - by The Grand Nudger - March 2, 2022 at 11:48 am
RE: Ethics - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 2, 2022 at 12:19 pm
RE: Ethics - by arewethereyet - March 2, 2022 at 12:49 pm
RE: Ethics - by Ahriman - March 2, 2022 at 12:57 pm
RE: Ethics - by arewethereyet - March 2, 2022 at 12:59 pm
RE: Ethics - by The Grand Nudger - March 2, 2022 at 1:14 pm
RE: Ethics - by Ahriman - March 2, 2022 at 1:23 pm
RE: Ethics - by The Grand Nudger - March 2, 2022 at 1:42 pm
RE: Ethics - by arewethereyet - March 2, 2022 at 2:01 pm
RE: Ethics - by Ahriman - March 2, 2022 at 2:08 pm
RE: Ethics - by arewethereyet - March 2, 2022 at 2:13 pm
RE: Ethics - by The Grand Nudger - March 2, 2022 at 2:21 pm
RE: Ethics - by Ahriman - March 2, 2022 at 2:28 pm
RE: Ethics - by arewethereyet - March 2, 2022 at 2:34 pm
RE: Ethics - by Ahriman - March 2, 2022 at 2:36 pm
RE: Ethics - by The Grand Nudger - March 2, 2022 at 2:36 pm
RE: Ethics - by arewethereyet - March 2, 2022 at 2:50 pm
RE: Ethics - by The Grand Nudger - March 2, 2022 at 3:04 pm
RE: Ethics - by Ahriman - March 2, 2022 at 3:09 pm
RE: Ethics - by arewethereyet - March 2, 2022 at 3:10 pm
RE: Ethics - by Ahriman - March 2, 2022 at 4:07 pm
RE: Ethics - by Jehanne - March 2, 2022 at 4:13 pm
RE: Ethics - by arewethereyet - March 2, 2022 at 4:21 pm
RE: Ethics - by Jehanne - March 2, 2022 at 4:25 pm
RE: Ethics - by Ahriman - March 2, 2022 at 4:25 pm
RE: Ethics - by arewethereyet - March 2, 2022 at 4:27 pm
RE: Ethics - by Jehanne - March 2, 2022 at 4:27 pm
RE: Ethics - by arewethereyet - March 2, 2022 at 4:28 pm
RE: Ethics - by Jehanne - March 2, 2022 at 4:32 pm
RE: Ethics - by arewethereyet - March 2, 2022 at 4:59 pm
RE: Ethics - by Jehanne - March 2, 2022 at 5:13 pm
RE: Ethics - by Ahriman - March 2, 2022 at 4:42 pm
RE: Ethics - by arewethereyet - March 2, 2022 at 4:44 pm

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