RE: Is there free will in heaven?
November 26, 2011 at 7:42 pm
(This post was last modified: November 26, 2011 at 7:51 pm by Mystic.)
(November 26, 2011 at 7:29 pm)Rhythm Wrote: There will never be a moment that I won't enjoy two women going down on each other.
How do you know how you will be after death? I thought as a kid, I will never stop loving lego, and would want to buy it as I grew older. It didn't happen as I thought. What makes you so sure you will always enjoy porn or sex? How do you know you won't become something different after death?
Quote:As has been mentioned, if we accept your fairy tale as truth, there is already a certain group of somebodies who opted out for whatever reason (their side of the narrative isn't very well represented, surprise surprise).
Opted out of what?
Quote: Invoking some "higher plane of existence" has exactly what to do with personal growth?
Well if we change as children to something different, we grew out of it, we changed, I see higher plane of existence as something we will change into, but we still remain whom we are. I don't see how changing means your not whom you are anymore. We aren't the same as we were when kids, but we are still the same person.
Quote:While I'm at it, why should your particular view of morality represent personal growth in the first place?
Well I don't have an issue with sex myself, but I thought were talking about the Christian perspective, if free-will was compatible with it.
Quote:I think its degenerate behaviour unbefitting a human being to even insinuate that this narrative may give us some metric or means for personal growth. If I can change later, why then can't I change my mind back, in this higher plane of existence, to liking lesbian sex again? Think of that?
Why can't you be sastified with the things you were sastified with as a baby? Why don't you enjoy kid toys anymore? Why can't you get yourself to enjoy those anymore? It's sort of the same question. You are of higher state, so those things don't please you anymore. You derive pleasure from different things. I don't see how this is not possible.
Quote:All of this, on top of the fact that there is no such place as heaven, no such thing as a soul, and no such god as christ.
Well the topic is not about that.