Darwinism

[Samson]

One thing you need to keep in mind Senseiotho, is that that the term, "Micro/Macro" is not used in Scientific community/Circles on a normal basis....The creationist are the ones who have separated this for their own uneducated agendas, and of course the, so called, Scientist who consider themselves creationist. (And I use the term Scientist very loosely)...

    Just a note to clarify about "uneducated agendas."  It was the Russian Entomologist Yuri Filipchenko who coined the terms "macroevolution" and "microevolution" in 1927 in his German language work, "Variabilität und Variation." That is how it attained its modern usage. The term was later brought into the English-speaking world by the neo-darwinist Theodosius Dobzhansky in his book "Genetics and the Origin of Species" (1937). Dobzhansky actually worked with Filipchenkowas and Dobzhansky was a very influential and prolific evolutionist.
     Creationists did not coin the terms or the distinction with their "uneducated agendas." It is a helpful distinction created by evolutionists between what has been verified scientifically and what is still speculation or assumption (I can give you his quote if you would like). I was using the term because I find it a helpful distinction as well, even though I know that some modern evolutionists are trying to get rid of the terms and the distinction. Though it seems like a PR campaign to gloss over the actual difficulties of macro-evolution and let its truth value ride on the evidence for micro-evolution. Webster still defines them as changes below the species level (micro) and major changes such as species formation (macro). This is how I was basically using them.  But, I will try to use the terms adaptation and speciation if that is the scientific norm now, since they are basically the same. Though I don't know if speciation normally covers the emergence of new organs and body types. I guess generally speaking it would "given enough time".

You missed the point.....And number one, I never said the Creationist are the one's who discovered or came up with Micro/Macro, I've read about Yuri years before.....Id'ers can barely say it, much less think that far outside of the box. But yes, "Creationist have spewed the two as separate for their own uneducated agendas. Apparently you haven't read the utter mess for the past 30 years they have been screaming between the two....

Again, in the Scientific community the two are not commonly used, because it's already understood of the meaning in the same. And as far as Yuri, just from what I've read and studied in the past on him, the Creationist separation was by far "NOT" the way he would have intended it to be viewed upon. (Regardless of his Orthodox backings)....

Id'ers seem to not understand that the core of Evolution (The Term itself) was simply a term given for the facts which were discovered and has been shown. In other words, Evolution was not first, the facts were found and it was given the name. What continues to change over time as new discoveries are made, is the Models from which are built around Evolution. No Scientist denies that fact...They know that something may take place a year, 10 years, 20 years from now that will redo the model....HOWEVER....The one thing that always stays the same and is never changing is the "Core" of Evolution.... That is the fact from which the models are built.....

It is dumbfounding for anyone to say that Evolution as a whole is not a fact....When in actuality, the term itself was given because of the facts and discoveries in place....