RE: Hiistorical jesus my best guess.
May 24, 2022 at 5:15 pm
(This post was last modified: May 24, 2022 at 5:38 pm by Anomalocaris.)
(May 24, 2022 at 2:25 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Oh no, another topic about Jeerlyboos. I think I'm gonna vomit...
I would say that Jesus is as historical as Molly Pitcher. It seems that she never existed, and yet there are uplifting books about her that tell inspiring stories for girls to look up to as if she really existed. And some people do seem to think she existed since there were some postal stamps with her image, and some (if not most) think she was made from one or several real women's life stories, but it seems that she was completely invented during the crisis known as the Revolutionary War, just as Jesus was invented during the crisis of the 1st century Jewish–Roman wars, and later re-invented over and over again as is the case with Molly Pitcher.
Exactly what does Jesus “existed” mean?
Imagine we can go back in time and actually have a detailed census of Roman Palestine and we have a swarm of persistent spy drone that can follow the lives of any persons that might pique our interest. How would we identify THE Jesus when we see him?
If the salient attribute of Jesus is son of god, then in all probability no such Jesus existed or could have ever existed.
If the salient attributed of Jesus is the name Jesus, then tens of thousands of these likely existed during period he supposedly lived. If it is a Jesus born to Joseph and mary there would likely be a large number of these as those as the list of names in common circulation in the Jewish community was small by modern standard. If it is a carpenter Jesus born of Joseph and mary who chose to by establishing a cult of a dozen or so impressionable halfwits rather than with his trade, there might even be several of these in the period in question.
What if different plausible attributes ascribed to Jesus was actually a mishmash of attributes of several people, such as one person was a carpenter born of Jospeh and mary and had a bunch of groupies, and another overthrew the money changer’s tables and got crucified? who is the real Jesus?
What kind of correlation would suffice to identify this real person, or perhaps group of real persons, as lying at the origins of the myth of godboy Jesus, but not any others?
Does the character in a fiction very loosely based on the life of one or several individuals, embellished time and again long after the individual(s) had died, actually exist merely the individual(s) that supposedly inspired the character actually existed?
