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[Serious] Fallacies & Strategies
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RE: Fallacies & Strategies
(June 5, 2022 at 8:23 am)Deesse23 Wrote:
(June 5, 2022 at 8:08 am)Klorophyll Wrote: 1/God doesn't owe anyone life to begin with.
How do you know?

There is no necessary reason for God to create us. We could have not existed. 

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(June 5, 2022 at 8:14 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: That is not, in fact, something that all belief systems have in common, nor is it true that abrahamic faith does not judge it's god.  It does, and it judges that god to be good.

Others see that, and disagree.  Just like we can disagree about disease being evil.  I don't think disease is evil because it negatively impacts wellbeing.  Disease is not a moral agent, it cannot be evil even if it does negatively impact wellbeing.  I do think it's evil for a moral agent to inflict disease, ofc.  Do gods qualify as moral agents?


It depends on what you mean by judge.. Religions like christianity or islam come in the form of articles of faith. A set of definitions and imperatives about what God is and what He wants us to do, etc. God purportedly revealed Himself and his character to us. Many would argue that this saves us the trouble of speculating about His character.

Now about disease. Does God permit disease in this world? Yes. And there are religous reasons that are proposed for that, like disease being a divine test of whether one's faith is genuine, etc. In fact, many people become religious after the horrible experience of some life-threatening illness or accident. This suggests there is a strong correlation between experiencing hardships and religiosity.



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Fallacies & Strategies - by John 6IX Breezy - May 28, 2022 at 1:11 pm
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by The Valkyrie - May 28, 2022 at 2:19 pm
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by Anomalocaris - May 28, 2022 at 8:20 pm
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by Angrboda - May 28, 2022 at 3:17 pm
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 28, 2022 at 3:44 pm
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by The Grand Nudger - May 28, 2022 at 8:13 pm
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 29, 2022 at 4:47 am
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by Belacqua - May 29, 2022 at 7:14 am
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by Fake Messiah - May 29, 2022 at 7:34 am
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by Neo-Scholastic - May 29, 2022 at 7:54 pm
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by Fake Messiah - May 29, 2022 at 9:04 pm
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by polymath257 - May 30, 2022 at 1:14 pm
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by Belacqua - May 31, 2022 at 2:03 am
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by Fake Messiah - May 31, 2022 at 2:35 am
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by R00tKiT - June 3, 2022 at 3:02 pm
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by Fake Messiah - June 6, 2022 at 12:01 am
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by The Architect Of Fate - June 6, 2022 at 12:35 am
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by GUBU - June 4, 2022 at 5:30 am
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by Anomalocaris - May 30, 2022 at 1:23 pm
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by The Grand Nudger - May 30, 2022 at 1:32 pm
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by arewethereyet - May 30, 2022 at 1:34 pm
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by The Grand Nudger - June 3, 2022 at 3:33 pm
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by R00tKiT - June 3, 2022 at 4:18 pm
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by Neo-Scholastic - June 3, 2022 at 10:45 pm
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by LadyForCamus - June 4, 2022 at 2:45 pm
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by Deesse23 - June 5, 2022 at 3:03 am
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by Deesse23 - June 5, 2022 at 2:55 am
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by The Architect Of Fate - June 5, 2022 at 3:50 am
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by The Grand Nudger - June 3, 2022 at 4:20 pm
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by R00tKiT - June 3, 2022 at 4:39 pm
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by The Grand Nudger - June 3, 2022 at 4:51 pm
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by R00tKiT - June 3, 2022 at 5:53 pm
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by GUBU - June 4, 2022 at 5:33 am
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by Thumpalumpacus - June 5, 2022 at 2:30 am
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by R00tKiT - June 5, 2022 at 8:08 am
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by Deesse23 - June 5, 2022 at 8:23 am
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by R00tKiT - June 5, 2022 at 8:55 am
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by Deesse23 - June 5, 2022 at 9:01 am
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by R00tKiT - June 5, 2022 at 6:01 pm
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by Thumpalumpacus - June 5, 2022 at 6:15 pm
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by The Architect Of Fate - June 5, 2022 at 6:26 pm
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by R00tKiT - June 5, 2022 at 6:35 pm
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by Thumpalumpacus - June 5, 2022 at 7:21 pm
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by R00tKiT - June 6, 2022 at 1:39 pm
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by Deesse23 - June 6, 2022 at 2:56 am
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by The Architect Of Fate - June 6, 2022 at 7:43 am
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by Deesse23 - June 6, 2022 at 7:49 am
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by Deesse23 - June 5, 2022 at 9:05 am
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by Thumpalumpacus - June 5, 2022 at 11:20 am
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by The Grand Nudger - June 3, 2022 at 6:25 pm
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by R00tKiT - June 4, 2022 at 6:20 pm
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by GUBU - June 5, 2022 at 5:15 am
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by Neo-Scholastic - June 3, 2022 at 9:28 pm
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by The Architect Of Fate - June 3, 2022 at 11:11 pm
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by The Architect Of Fate - June 3, 2022 at 11:12 pm
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by The Grand Nudger - June 4, 2022 at 7:46 am
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by The Architect Of Fate - June 4, 2022 at 3:06 pm
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by The Grand Nudger - June 4, 2022 at 6:50 pm
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by The Grand Nudger - June 5, 2022 at 3:07 am
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by Deesse23 - June 5, 2022 at 3:16 am
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by The Grand Nudger - June 5, 2022 at 3:25 am
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by The Grand Nudger - June 5, 2022 at 4:00 am
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by Deesse23 - June 5, 2022 at 4:27 am
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by The Grand Nudger - June 5, 2022 at 4:34 am
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by The Grand Nudger - June 5, 2022 at 7:39 am
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by The Grand Nudger - June 5, 2022 at 8:14 am
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by The Grand Nudger - June 5, 2022 at 8:49 am
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by The Grand Nudger - June 5, 2022 at 9:08 am
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by The Architect Of Fate - June 5, 2022 at 5:22 pm
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by The Architect Of Fate - June 5, 2022 at 4:00 pm
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by The Grand Nudger - June 5, 2022 at 7:08 pm
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by Belacqua - June 6, 2022 at 2:20 am
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by polymath257 - June 6, 2022 at 9:07 am
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by Angrboda - June 6, 2022 at 9:11 am
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by The Grand Nudger - June 6, 2022 at 2:37 am
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by Anomalocaris - June 6, 2022 at 3:23 am
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by The Grand Nudger - June 6, 2022 at 4:21 am
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by The Architect Of Fate - June 6, 2022 at 7:51 am
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by The Grand Nudger - June 6, 2022 at 10:26 am
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by The Grand Nudger - June 6, 2022 at 2:33 pm
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by R00tKiT - June 6, 2022 at 4:20 pm
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by LinuxGal - August 9, 2023 at 10:51 pm
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by The Grand Nudger - June 6, 2022 at 4:26 pm
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by R00tKiT - June 6, 2022 at 4:35 pm
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by bennyboy - June 11, 2022 at 8:10 pm
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by Deesse23 - June 12, 2022 at 1:35 am
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by The Grand Nudger - June 6, 2022 at 5:09 pm
RE: Fallacies & Strategies - by arewethereyet - August 10, 2023 at 6:02 am

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