(June 5, 2022 at 9:08 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote:So God needlessly causes suffering because apparently being a god isn't enough to get people to worship him? And what would cause less conusion then vaguely revealing itself through a collection of stories indistinguishable from myths and forces indistinguishable from the mundane actually making it clear what it wants.(June 5, 2022 at 8:55 am)Klorophyll Wrote: It depends on what you mean by judge.. Religions like christianity or islam come in the form of articles of faith. A set of definitions and imperatives about what God is and what He wants us to do, etc. God purportedly revealed Himself and his character to us. Many would argue that this saves us the trouble of speculating about His character.All religions are described by articles of faith. You'll have to pick a lane at some point though. We either can or can't know whether a god is good or evil. Speculation, revelation, observation... it doesn't really matter which vehicle.
Quote:Now about disease. Does God permit disease in this world? Yes. And there are religous reasons that are proposed for that, like disease being a divine test of whether one's faith is genuine, etc. In fact, many people become religious after the horrible experience of some life-threatening illness or accident. This suggests there is a strong correlation between experiencing hardships and religiosity.There may be a correlation between hardship and religiosity - but if god is inflicting hardship to increase religiosity, that would be another example of potential immorality. Assuming, ofc, god actually is a competent moral agent and can be morally responsible for anything, after all. Unlike waves, volcanos, or ice cream.
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Nemo sicut deus debet esse!
“No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM