(June 21, 2022 at 9:38 am)TheJefe817 Wrote:(June 21, 2022 at 8:27 am)Dragonset Wrote: There's probably more but that's at least a start.
I think, with the exception perhaps of the December 25th one, I've heard one or more people argue for each of these being explicitly in scripture. Note I didn't say these arguments were always credible, but they exist.
Oh, sure. Interpretation, like most things, is always up for debate.
Quote:I think it's all a matter of interpretation, translation and frankly just what the reader is willing to accept.
I think that there are two possible ways to interpret pretty much anything. The right way or the wrong way. There are, of course, variations within either of those two possibilities, but Biblically, you are beholden to the text more than theologically. So, for example, let's say I like the concept of the immortal soul from Greek philosophy; Socrates for example. Okay. Is that the same as Ezekiel 18:4 and Matthew 10:28? No. According to those the soul dies and can be destroyed. You can argue any interpretation but that's pretty straightforward. Pretty simple. Still, yeah . . . you could argue about it ad infinitum.
Quote:Personally, none of these move the needle much - there are plenty of other things explicitly said (or unsaid, as the case may be) which are far worse.
You mean theologically? I think the examples I gave pretty much demonstrates the invalidity of modern day Christianity. We could explore the validity of my claims as far as interpretation but if those claims can be substantiated it's a done deal. That simple. Of course, it doesn't really matter because the ideology is more important than the source, that is, the teachings of the Bible anyway.