(July 19, 2022 at 5:17 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: So, let's talk about the characteristics of realism - because you did just attempt a realist justification for why homosexuality is bad - despite stating your strong support for moral subjectivism. If it were true...that not having children was bad, and that homosexuals couldn't have children, this would not be a subjective claim. If it were true.... that homosexuals made the kingdom bankrupt or at risk, somehow, and the kingdom being at risk were a bad thing - this would not be a subjective claim. These are realist claims whose truth depends on getting those facts right...and they don't...so they aren't..or..if they are, not for those reasons.If a kingdom came to harm in the way I described, then you'd imagine another world in which it hadn't. That hypothetical perfect world would NOT be represented in reality.
And if that turn of events never happened, you'd never NEED to imagine that other world. The moral idea that "homosexuality is bad" would never have occurred.
