RE: Covid 19 conspiracies dump
July 20, 2022 at 4:45 pm
(This post was last modified: July 20, 2022 at 4:56 pm by Irreligious Atheist.)
(July 20, 2022 at 3:21 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote:Quote:“To be able to accept the structure of existence, the suffering that goes along with it, and the disappointment and the betrayal, and to nonetheless act properly, to aim at the good with all your heart, to dispense with the malevolence and your desire for destruction and revenge, and all of that, and to face things courageously and to tell the truth, to speak the truth and to act it out: that’s what it means to believe,” he said. “That’s what it means. It doesn’t mean to state it. It means to act it out. And unless you act it out, you should be very careful about claiming it.”https://www.dailywire.com/news/watch-jor...yNEALw_wcB
“And so I’ve never been comfortable saying anything other than, I try to act as if God exists, because God only knows what you’d be if you truly believed,” he noted. “That’s the central idea in Christianity, that if you were capable of believing it would be a transfiguring event, a truly transfiguring event. And I know people experience that to one degree or another, but we have no idea what the limit of that is, and we have no idea what the possibility is within each person if they lived a life that was maximally courageous and maximally truthful. … God only knows what you’d be if you believed.”
“So while I try to act like I believe, I never claim that I manage it,” concluded Peterson.
Quote:-Quick question, are you a christian?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIB05YeMiW8
-I suppose the most straightforward answer is yes.
Quote:-Your belief is christian?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIB05YeMiW8
-Mhm, yep
Quote:-So, it has nothing to do with divinity or the supernatural?https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=6622&v=q...e=youtu.be
-No, I didn't say that
-and the crown jewel...jordan peterson, in "is the resurrection historical"
Quote:I do believe there are places where the mythological and the literal touchhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDd2hXZPzb4
None of that comes within a thousand miles of convincing me that he's literally a Christian, as in a monotheist that literally believes in a creator god, and so on and so forth. A cultural Christian? Absolutely, as am I since I was born in the West and brought up by Christian parents.
You just engaged in quote mining, deceptively. I clicked on one of your links, and JP when asked if he was Christian responded, "I suppose the most straight forward answer to that is yes, ALTHOUGH..." Thanks for leaving out the although part. JP then goes on to say, "There are truths other than the literal". Thanks for leaving that part out as well. Is he a LITERAL believer? JP then goes on to say that he can not answer the question of whether Jesus rose from the dead. Again, thanks for leaving that quote out.
How about instead of nitpicking my post and trying to get a zinger in by deceptively quote mining, you give me credit for not defending JP like you probably initially thought I was going to when you saw that I had responded to that post about JP. Jimmy Dore is full on grifting now too, and he has lost a ton of respect from me. Tulsi Gabbard has gone full on grifter mode and is basically a shill for the repubs now. Elon Musk lost a lot of credibility with me when he pulled that publicity stunt of announcing he was republican and attributing that to sexual harassment allegations when he already knew that was coming, because what he did is the move of a BS artist. Jesse Lee Peterson was recently exposed as a predator, and in my view, I don't see any signs of deception in the accusers and I think it's most likely legit. I'm not quite as brainwashed as you think I am and I am capable of discernment. There are many Jordan Peterson fans out there that will defend him no matter what. You take this truth, and then you spin that around to a false reality where no one who watches JP is capable of discernment. The first part being true does not mean that the other part then follows. Some are capable of discernment. Some are not, and are just fanboys. As we can see in youtube comments, some people in society really do think it's ok for cops to shoot someone dead just because that person was a drug user. That disgusting base of people absolutely does exist in society. But you take it a step too far when you then attribute that view to anyone ever that brings up the drugs, like OLB for instance. Just because some people that bring up the drugs have horrible thoughts, you can't then extrapolate that and say that everyone who brings up the drugs shares those same horrific thoughts. That's not fair to people.
Anyways, whether JP is literally a Christian or not does not really matter. The point is that he shares much of the ideology of Evangelicals and Catholics, regardless of what his personal views are on supernaturalism.