(September 7, 2022 at 11:15 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: An example of why our other muslim friend thinks that set of fables damages the credibility of the religion of magic book.
Winter is a quranist. He can easily learn how silly quranism is by searching the responses in the web. It's bad enough that he got the number of prayers wrong. I lived for two decades in a Muslim country and I never met nor heard of anyone who prays three times a day. The guy really is an extreme case.
Quranism aside, the hadith simply got a fact right, I don't see how that damages the credibility of anything.
(September 7, 2022 at 11:15 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: -just as magic book and hadith are <snip> Like your attempt to parody electronics manufacturing..I think you've succeeded ...just not in what you set out to do. Furthermore, I'd posit that every scientific miracle nuts true faith is found in science, and not <snip>. After all, we're looking at science as the truthmaker for your religious claims, and not the other way round.
That's simply not true, because science changes and religious claims don't. There is however a subset of scientific facts that is unlikely to ever change, like the fact that the Earth is round, or the fact that the luminferous aether doesn't exist, or the fact that we have 360 joints.