RE: A knockdown prophecy
September 7, 2022 at 2:48 pm
(This post was last modified: September 7, 2022 at 2:49 pm by R00tKiT.)
(September 7, 2022 at 12:53 pm)Angrboda Wrote: There are many possible explanations for any given falsehood.
You may want to start by pointing out where the falsehood is exactly, in this particular case.
(September 7, 2022 at 12:55 pm)GUBU Wrote: What you believe that it was a different set of power hungry maniacs who wrote the hadiths to those who wrote the qu'ran.
Nobody wrote the Qur'an in its earliest form, the Islamic prophet recited it orally, he didn't write anything. Mainstream biographies of the prophet state that he couldn't write.
(September 7, 2022 at 12:55 pm)GUBU Wrote: Anyway my point still stands, copying Greek medical texts does not equal prophesy.
I agree, but picking exactly the correct bits of greek medical texts, which are filled with mistakes and mythology, can amount to prophecy.
(September 7, 2022 at 1:39 pm)Deesse23 Wrote: Nope, no messed up logic. You may want to take some reading classes? I ddint claim it was guaranteed something, you claimed it was guaranteed prophecy, did ya? I was only offering one other explanation than "prophecy". You claimed prophecy. Now, hush, prove it wasnt some random (greek or chinese) dude counting joints on a dead body.
GO
And your explanation was shown to be dead in the water, so the prophecy is still valid so far.
(September 7, 2022 at 1:39 pm)Deesse23 Wrote: Stop evading. Were you engaged in confirmation bias? Yes or no?
The correct answer is: Yes you were desperately looking to confirm your already established belief.
I would be lying if I told you I defend my beliefs with zero confirmation bias, anyone is biased to what they believe or stand for. But this shouldn't be a problem here, you're presented with a set of texts from islamic scripture that make more sense if the prophet were genuine than if he weren't, my biases and intentions shouldn't concern you at this point. -unless of course, you want to dodge the hard questions and dissert about how irrational I am.
Again: it's not merely about getting some random fact right, it's also two more very important things :
1) Taking the risk of stating such a fact.
2) Picking it out of dozens of similar wrong statements or assertions.
So yeah one may be tempted to find some pre-Islam text that shows the number 360 and call it a day, but pre Islam medicine and anatomy stated all kinds of silly claims and theories about the human body, which you don't find in the hadiths or the Qur'an.
(September 7, 2022 at 1:39 pm)Deesse23 Wrote: Lets address my concerns, particularly about confirmation bias.
Lets also try to be a decent and honest debater by admitting having misrepresented my position (aka: me claiming a dude dissecting another dude MUST come to the conclusion of "360".
You said people dissected bodies in the 7th century, without further details. But I showed that whoever the people you're referring to, it still doesn't explain why we have the hadith.