(September 7, 2022 at 2:48 pm)R00tKiT Wrote:You showed nothing. You straw manned me and now are going nuh uhh!(September 7, 2022 at 1:39 pm)Deesse23 Wrote: Nope, no messed up logic. You may want to take some reading classes? I ddint claim it was guaranteed something, you claimed it was guaranteed prophecy, did ya? I was only offering one other explanation than "prophecy". You claimed prophecy. Now, hush, prove it wasnt some random (greek or chinese) dude counting joints on a dead body.
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And your explanation was shown to be dead in the water, so the prophecy is still valid so far.
My potential explanation is: Someone else, 1k years earlier, a chinese man counted 360 joints as well.
If you want to prove its been a prophecy 1ky after this, then you must rule out the chinese dude being correct, by counting joints of a corpse.
(September 7, 2022 at 2:48 pm)R00tKiT Wrote:Were you looking for other explanations of why a 7th century Arab counts 360 joints?(September 7, 2022 at 1:39 pm)Deesse23 Wrote: Stop evading. Were you engaged in confirmation bias? Yes or no?
The correct answer is: Yes you were desperately looking to confirm your already established belief.
I would be lying if I told you I defend my beliefs with zero confirmation bias...
Were you considering that he knew of greek or chinese people dissecting bodies and counting joints and potentially coming to the same conclusion as the Arab a thousand years later?
Yes or no?
(September 7, 2022 at 2:48 pm)R00tKiT Wrote: So yeah one may be tempted to find some pre-Islam text that shows the number 360 and call it a day, but pre Islam medicine and anatomy stated all kinds of silly claims and theories about the human body, which you don't find in the hadiths or the Qur'an.You claimed it was a prophecy. You have to rule out pre islam medicine being correct, not by chance, but by counting joints a thousand years prior.
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good luck
(September 7, 2022 at 2:48 pm)R00tKiT Wrote:Stop evading(September 7, 2022 at 1:39 pm)Deesse23 Wrote: Lets address my concerns, particularly about confirmation bias.
Lets also try to be a decent and honest debater by admitting having misrepresented my position (aka: me claiming a dude dissecting another dude MUST come to the conclusion of "360".
You said people dissected bodies in the 7th century, without further details. But I showed that whoever the people you're referring to, it still doesn't explain why we have the hadith.
You straw manned me saying greek or chinese dudes must have counted correctly, while i really said they might have counted correctly, which is enough to refute your claim of prophecy.
I request an apology from you.
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