Russia and Ukraine

[Deesse23]

So, NOT because Ukraine wanted to join NATO, then?

Boru

That was probably a secondary reason, but, I think that the principle reason was land.  Again, if Ukraine (in whole or in part) joins NATO, Putin could simply line the border with thermonuclear weapons and blow them to bits if war ever broke out.

At his point, after pages of arguing about Ukraine joining NATO being the cause of Russia invading Ukraine, i have to assume that you werent arguing in good faith. Im done.

But let this be known: Its not only unreasonable, but unethical to demand others giving up their freedoms for your perceived fears.