RE: Kalam
December 1, 2022 at 2:51 pm
(This post was last modified: December 1, 2022 at 3:09 pm by LadyForCamus.)
(November 28, 2022 at 11:51 pm)Belacqua Wrote:(November 28, 2022 at 11:34 pm)LinuxGal Wrote: On the contrary, it is written (Summa P1 Q3 A3):
The second way is from the nature of the efficient cause. In the world of sense we find there is an order of efficient causes. There is no case known (neither is it, indeed, possible) in which a thing is found to be the efficient cause of itself; for so it would be prior to itself, which is impossible. Now in efficient causes it is not possible to go on to infinity, because in all efficient causes following in order, the first is the cause of the intermediate cause, and the intermediate is the cause of the ultimate cause, whether the intermediate cause be several, or only one. Now to take away the cause is to take away the effect. Therefore, if there be no first cause among efficient causes, there will be no ultimate, nor any intermediate cause. But if in efficient causes it is possible to go on to infinity, there will be no first efficient cause, neither will there be an ultimate effect, nor any intermediate efficient causes; all of which is plainly false. Therefore it is necessary to admit a first efficient cause, to which everyone gives the name of God.
Kalam is about a temporal chain of causation. The Thomist ways are about essential chains.
What is the difference between the two?
Edit:
Disregard; I’m caught up. 😛
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