RE: What do you think about the police?
December 12, 2022 at 11:57 am
(This post was last modified: December 12, 2022 at 12:10 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(December 11, 2022 at 8:58 am)Helios Wrote: A road system run by libertarians would never work. There is a reason we leave that to the government.
(December 11, 2022 at 9:03 am)LinuxGal Wrote:(December 11, 2022 at 8:58 am)Helios Wrote: A road system run by libertarians would never work. There is a reason we leave that to the government.
A road system run by libertarians would have a toll booth every time you turned onto a road built by a different asshole. Taxation isn't "theft" it's actually a solution in optimization of cost and convenience.
That's actually what we did here in the us. We privatized alot of formerly public roads, or failed to maintain the publics while greenlighting new privately funded and publicly compensated construction - and now here we are. Did it with alot of our infrastructure (and labor, too). To the point that there are states that now say, out loud...and perhaps without an ounce of self realization....that they can't operate their public programs without more (private) prison labor. That they cannot build or maintain their roads, and so, these private funded ventures are the only option. We flirted with this a couple of times through the centuries, it always ends the same way - fuckin mess.
I think it's especially galling right now when we decide to tap private capital for public investments, essentially divesting in public investment as a government...at a point in time where we might need to extend the umbrella of what falls under public investment (electricity? food? internet connectivity?)...and as private entities preemptively capture important resources like water.
As far as private users "paying for roads" - that's a non issue. Our sedan drivers do not pay for roads. Trucking companies and their employees do. Fair, as far as it goes. Transportation eats up the pavement. The trouble is that they do not pay enough, even under that taxation regime. They are, thus, subsidized by john q in the form of whatever value is created for them, by the difference between their use, and it's cost. I think this one example handily sums up the way that libertarianism is useful to our growing system of fuedal captialism. Gets John Q A calling John QB the moocher, even though John Q's A-Zx100 don't incur the cost of the entities currently abusing the taxbase. Leveraging half truths to whole lies.
TLDR - eat the rich - but in a wholesome and completely american way, through free markets, ofc.
(and I've been informed many times - especially by folks not stuck in here with these nuts, that american libertarianism is, well....not libertarianism, and I agree.)
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