(December 6, 2011 at 4:25 pm)AthiestAtheist Wrote:(December 6, 2011 at 1:44 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:In the same sense that the moment you create a magnet with a north pole, you create a south pole as well. I can sort of understand that. You can say that there was always atheism, and you can say that it started as soon as someone came up with the idea of a god and someone else did not believe them.(December 6, 2011 at 10:50 am)reverendjeremiah Wrote: The moment religion started, atheism started right next to it and has rode along side it all these thousands of years.
So you need theism for atheism to exist?
Actually any animal or humans default position is nothingness regarding god.
You can't be atheist by default because you have to have a proposition (a god proposed by theists) to not believe. You can't believe or not believe in something unproposed and unheard of.
You can't be a theist by default, obviously because you need to be taught theism.
You can't be even agnostic by default, because even that requires a subject to "not know" about.
If no one ever made up and proposed god, none of the 3 above would exist.
Effectively, you definitely need theism for atheism to exist, there is no getting away from that.
You are currently experiencing a lucky and very brief window of awareness, sandwiched in between two periods of timeless and utter nothingness. So why not make the most of it, and stop wasting your life away trying to convince other people that there is something else? The reality is obvious.
