(December 29, 2022 at 7:42 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: If I were religious, I might very well think that afghan girls playing soccer was deeply wrong…..as some religious people do. I might think that afghan girls having fewer, rather than more rights was an improvement….as some religious people do. I might think that the eradication of any other religion was a good thing, as some religious people do.
All intelligent scholars is just another excuse and admission rolled into one….and another irrelevant one, at that. You ask us how someone knows god said something without an ounce of self awareness, it seems. You’re -all- doing the same thing with your competing claims as to what god has or hasn’t said. You think theirs are ugly, but so what, maybe gods are ugly? Maybe gods are ugly because ugly people made them? As you say….there are many examples.
-but no, you prefer to imagine some distortion of a wholly unevidenced “original message”. I don’t think that -any- of you have any business in any of these subjects. As I already mentioned, what a god does or doesn’t say is completely irrelevant to any of it, and all of these attempts to rehabilitate your shitty gods reputation are transparently irrational, and pointless.
1) Well if I shared that view I would go all the way. Why not just create an all male population while we’re on it? That would spare neighboring countries from the current refugee crisis lol
2) That’s the atheist point of view and I respect that because it’s an entirely legitimate point of view (as I have already admitted). But being someone who is religious myself and having read the books of really serious theologians (who were even guest professors on Islamic faith in the U.S.) I think I know enough to claim all of these territories of distortion and ugliness back for myself
3) I’m starting to think that my arguments seem a little too theoretical for you because I mostly gave example from my own culture or from the Hindu belief system. You’re from a Judeo Christian tradition and you seem to be more knowledgeable on that. So you could check out just one chapter (of your own choice) from Marianne Williamson. She was a democratic presidential candidate in 2019 and is from a Jewish family and you probably have friends or relatives who own one of her books. Just read one chapter from any book. This is intended to give you an idea on what I would call “our 21st century way of approaching such issues”.