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The Fifth of the Five Ways
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RE: The Fifth of the Five Ways
(January 3, 2023 at 4:48 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:
(January 3, 2023 at 12:38 am)GrandizerII Wrote: But to get the actual meanings, the best way to do so is to jump on Google and do a relevant search there. Better than making such a hasty interpretation and then responding accordingly.

If you have something to say, say it. If you think that I am wrong be specific. Don't be passive-aggressive.

Because I don't have time to make lengthy posts to explain what per se and per accidens mean in this context. Plus, I'm not the right person to consult about this anyway since I haven't devoted much time to studying Thomistic theology and only have a minimal understanding of it. Which is why I suggested googling these terms.

But since you want me to say something more specific, then your error (I suspect) is in thinking per accidens means "by accident" in the sense that we tend to think of. Correct me if I'm mistaken, but you were thinking "random" and you contrast this with natural selection. Whereas the actual meaning is something like "non-essential". So in this context, evolution is not considered by this Thomist to be an essential cause of "the origin of species".

Interestingly enough, natural selection would be considered a confirmation (not a rebuttal) of the Fifth Way according to modern Thomists since it is directed towards an end.

If you want more information, please google or ask Neo or something. I just don't have enough time to post much here. Sorry.
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The Fifth of the Five Ways - by LinuxGal - December 31, 2022 at 8:19 pm
RE: The Fifth of the Five Ways - by GrandizerII - January 1, 2023 at 7:23 am
RE: The Fifth of the Five Ways - by Belacqua - January 2, 2023 at 1:38 am
RE: The Fifth of the Five Ways - by Fake Messiah - January 2, 2023 at 1:57 am
RE: The Fifth of the Five Ways - by GrandizerII - January 3, 2023 at 12:38 am
RE: The Fifth of the Five Ways - by Fake Messiah - January 3, 2023 at 4:48 am
RE: The Fifth of the Five Ways - by GrandizerII - January 3, 2023 at 7:40 am
RE: The Fifth of the Five Ways - by Fake Messiah - January 3, 2023 at 8:26 am
RE: The Fifth of the Five Ways - by GrandizerII - January 5, 2023 at 11:33 am
RE: The Fifth of the Five Ways - by Deesse23 - January 5, 2023 at 11:59 am
RE: The Fifth of the Five Ways - by GrandizerII - January 5, 2023 at 8:29 pm
RE: The Fifth of the Five Ways - by Neo-Scholastic - January 3, 2023 at 10:14 pm
RE: The Fifth of the Five Ways - by Fake Messiah - January 3, 2023 at 10:42 pm
RE: The Fifth of the Five Ways - by Belacqua - January 3, 2023 at 11:01 pm
RE: The Fifth of the Five Ways - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 2, 2023 at 4:13 am
RE: The Fifth of the Five Ways - by Neo-Scholastic - January 3, 2023 at 1:44 am
RE: The Fifth of the Five Ways - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 3, 2023 at 5:08 am
RE: The Fifth of the Five Ways - by Neo-Scholastic - January 3, 2023 at 10:26 pm
RE: The Fifth of the Five Ways - by Belacqua - January 3, 2023 at 11:03 pm
RE: The Fifth of the Five Ways - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 4, 2023 at 3:16 am
RE: The Fifth of the Five Ways - by Belacqua - January 2, 2023 at 8:21 am
RE: The Fifth of the Five Ways - by Anomalocaris - January 2, 2023 at 8:33 am
RE: The Fifth of the Five Ways - by Deesse23 - January 2, 2023 at 9:04 am
RE: The Fifth of the Five Ways - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 2, 2023 at 10:53 am
RE: The Fifth of the Five Ways - by Deesse23 - January 2, 2023 at 12:02 pm
RE: The Fifth of the Five Ways - by Brian37 - January 5, 2023 at 8:42 pm
RE: The Fifth of the Five Ways - by Fake Messiah - January 5, 2023 at 10:48 pm
RE: The Fifth of the Five Ways - by Anomalocaris - January 5, 2023 at 11:07 pm
RE: The Fifth of the Five Ways - by GrandizerII - January 5, 2023 at 11:12 pm
RE: The Fifth of the Five Ways - by Aegon - January 2, 2023 at 11:44 am
RE: The Fifth of the Five Ways - by Anomalocaris - January 2, 2023 at 12:12 pm
RE: The Fifth of the Five Ways - by Neo-Scholastic - January 3, 2023 at 1:52 am
RE: The Fifth of the Five Ways - by Anomalocaris - January 2, 2023 at 12:08 pm
RE: The Fifth of the Five Ways - by Fireball - January 2, 2023 at 12:11 pm
RE: The Fifth of the Five Ways - by Anomalocaris - January 2, 2023 at 12:13 pm
RE: The Fifth of the Five Ways - by Anomalocaris - January 3, 2023 at 1:18 pm
RE: The Fifth of the Five Ways - by Belacqua - January 4, 2023 at 1:39 am
RE: The Fifth of the Five Ways - by Fireball - January 6, 2023 at 12:00 am

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