1) a) That might be true. But as I told Grand Nudger, nobody is asking you to believe anything. There are many people who are into Yoga and Meditation only for its benefits. I personally know people who are into these things and still define themselves as atheists.
b) I would argue against that. Ancient people explained natural events with their mythology featuring man-like deities. When Freyja was in the underworld it was winter, when she was free it was summer. The thunder was caused by the Hammer of Thor etc. etc.
I think we know better than that today. So when I look at the perfection of the universe I personally assume that whatever intelligence created it, it’s bigger than ours.
2) Well… I think I agree
3) Some say there are even layers of meanings in these texts. Let’s take the story of creation for instance. To be it represents creation but not in a physical manner. For me this represents the soul who is adopting an Ego in order to be able to exist in this physical realm. Both the soul and the ego here are understood as “energies”. But doing this they are losing their eternal existence in God (Paradise or heaven). And the serpent here is the “evil” character of our own very Ego that distorts, hides, covers reality and tricks us into eating the apple (that represents the belief in an existence that is separate from God).
So this is just one example. I am not asking you to believe it. But if you wanted to tell that in your own words, how would you proceed? In the Quran it say: “If you don’t believe in these words, why don’t you write something similar?”
(Or that’s how I see it basically)
3b) I agree that it’s exactly what it looks like at first sight. And there are no hidden meanings like numerology or the astrological verses of Nostradamus. I even read about somebody trying to decipher the Torah by reading the Hebrew version in a diagonal manner etc. I believe this to be a complete waste of time.
In my understanding, God does not simply “destroy all those who deny him”. That’s just the twisted interpretation of the Spanish Reconquista. That’s not how I see it. There are some belief systems that I consider to be completely twisted. There are some old belief systems that I consider to be highly traditional, too superficial and unnecessarily dogmatic. But I have completely lost the feeling that God Doesn’t like “the others”. This is one of the contradictions of those old-school belief systems that I find to be a realm of inaction and laziness.
Someone very famous in my country once said: “If you find a contradiction between me and science, chose science”.
So that’s what I did. But instead of turning me into an atheist, this approach turned me into this.
I have a feeling you don’t see the benefit of doing what I am doing. But try to think of the “Superior Human Being” that is mentioned by Nietche in the book Ecce Homo. Or think of the path humanity is on in this very moment. I think the world is a mess. And although science is offering us solutions, There is no “one size fit all” solution to anything in this planet.
Check this one out for example:
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/greta-thu...267ca5f759
The man is 33 years old. And climate change is not a new phenomenon. In 1998 TIME magazine had an issue that was dedicated to climate change. I was 16 year old when I read that and this guy lives in 2023 and is 33 years old while he is posting that tweet.
And that’s why Sadhguru (a famous Guru of India) is according to be completely right when he describes the mind as a cutting tool. That’s what the mind does. It’s like a sharp knife that dissects everything. So for this very reason, we have satellites outside the solar system now. But we have no solution (I watched a documentary on this recently) we have no ecological solution for own body excrement. We are still wasting like 50 gallons of water pro person everyday just to deal with our own poop. We don’t have one technology that is better than the technology of Roman Latrines in antiquity.
So that’s the potential of spirituality (or true spirituality if you want). It’s there to help us take control of the Ego and the Buddhi (the intellect) and do some inner transformation. I think there has to be transformation right now. The mind alone cannot do it. Science alone won’t cut it. In the 20th century the communists have tried that, the hippies have tried that, I mean no. It’s not going to work (nothing is going to change) unless we are able to bring some new element into this mess and that new element is what I call this spiritual awareness or spiritual growth.
You don’t have a better solution for that. Just look at the news. If I am wrong, than how would you solve all of this?
b) I would argue against that. Ancient people explained natural events with their mythology featuring man-like deities. When Freyja was in the underworld it was winter, when she was free it was summer. The thunder was caused by the Hammer of Thor etc. etc.
I think we know better than that today. So when I look at the perfection of the universe I personally assume that whatever intelligence created it, it’s bigger than ours.
2) Well… I think I agree
3) Some say there are even layers of meanings in these texts. Let’s take the story of creation for instance. To be it represents creation but not in a physical manner. For me this represents the soul who is adopting an Ego in order to be able to exist in this physical realm. Both the soul and the ego here are understood as “energies”. But doing this they are losing their eternal existence in God (Paradise or heaven). And the serpent here is the “evil” character of our own very Ego that distorts, hides, covers reality and tricks us into eating the apple (that represents the belief in an existence that is separate from God).
So this is just one example. I am not asking you to believe it. But if you wanted to tell that in your own words, how would you proceed? In the Quran it say: “If you don’t believe in these words, why don’t you write something similar?”
(Or that’s how I see it basically)
3b) I agree that it’s exactly what it looks like at first sight. And there are no hidden meanings like numerology or the astrological verses of Nostradamus. I even read about somebody trying to decipher the Torah by reading the Hebrew version in a diagonal manner etc. I believe this to be a complete waste of time.
In my understanding, God does not simply “destroy all those who deny him”. That’s just the twisted interpretation of the Spanish Reconquista. That’s not how I see it. There are some belief systems that I consider to be completely twisted. There are some old belief systems that I consider to be highly traditional, too superficial and unnecessarily dogmatic. But I have completely lost the feeling that God Doesn’t like “the others”. This is one of the contradictions of those old-school belief systems that I find to be a realm of inaction and laziness.
Someone very famous in my country once said: “If you find a contradiction between me and science, chose science”.
So that’s what I did. But instead of turning me into an atheist, this approach turned me into this.
I have a feeling you don’t see the benefit of doing what I am doing. But try to think of the “Superior Human Being” that is mentioned by Nietche in the book Ecce Homo. Or think of the path humanity is on in this very moment. I think the world is a mess. And although science is offering us solutions, There is no “one size fit all” solution to anything in this planet.
Check this one out for example:
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/greta-thu...267ca5f759
The man is 33 years old. And climate change is not a new phenomenon. In 1998 TIME magazine had an issue that was dedicated to climate change. I was 16 year old when I read that and this guy lives in 2023 and is 33 years old while he is posting that tweet.
And that’s why Sadhguru (a famous Guru of India) is according to be completely right when he describes the mind as a cutting tool. That’s what the mind does. It’s like a sharp knife that dissects everything. So for this very reason, we have satellites outside the solar system now. But we have no solution (I watched a documentary on this recently) we have no ecological solution for own body excrement. We are still wasting like 50 gallons of water pro person everyday just to deal with our own poop. We don’t have one technology that is better than the technology of Roman Latrines in antiquity.
So that’s the potential of spirituality (or true spirituality if you want). It’s there to help us take control of the Ego and the Buddhi (the intellect) and do some inner transformation. I think there has to be transformation right now. The mind alone cannot do it. Science alone won’t cut it. In the 20th century the communists have tried that, the hippies have tried that, I mean no. It’s not going to work (nothing is going to change) unless we are able to bring some new element into this mess and that new element is what I call this spiritual awareness or spiritual growth.
You don’t have a better solution for that. Just look at the news. If I am wrong, than how would you solve all of this?
