(January 13, 2023 at 6:29 pm)WinterHold Wrote:(January 13, 2023 at 10:07 am)Angrboda Wrote: It's a fallacy because a person being inauthentic and unrealistic has no logical connection to them being correct or not. That you don't understand this is simply another side of your ignorance. You have to demonstrate that any inauthenticity or unrealism influenced their claims, not simply assume it in order to undermine their claims. Essentially, assuming it turns your argument into a form of argument from bare assertion, aka an ipse dixit argument, i.e. asserting that "their claims are corrupted by their biases" without any actual evidence or support for your belief. But I don't expect you to grasp these facts any more successfully than you grasped that plasma is physical.
(As an aside, Constantine's influence on, and the extent of the changes which occurred as a result of Nicea are frequently exaggerated by ignorant morons like you.)
I judge their claims as being "fabrications" and "nonsense" because I know exactly that these men were gathered in the council to serve the agenda of Rome; and that any of them attempting to defy the will of the Emperor Constantine would end up crossed on the Roman cross.
We have detailed documented chronicles of how Rome was governed in the period of Constantine.
As for your side; it is demolished by the definition of the council itself:
Quote:The First Council of Nicaea (/naɪˈsiːə/; Ancient Greek: Νίκαια [ˈnikεa]) was a council of Christian bishops convened in the Bithynian city of Nicaea (now İznik, Turkey) by the Roman Emperor Constantine I in AD 325.
This ecumenical council was the first effort to attain consensus in the church through an assembly representing all Christendom. Hosius of Corduba may have presided
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- While Arius claimed that Jesus Christ was created, the Council concluded, since He was begotten, that He was not made.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Coun...aea#Agenda
It's important to remember that a pronouncement by a biased person serving an agenda can still be true. If - for the purpose of argument - we take it as read that Jesus of Nazareth with an historic personage, the Council was perfectly correct in saying that he was 'begotten'.
Boru
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