RE: The historical Jesus--dead wrong, literally.
December 7, 2011 at 9:34 pm
(This post was last modified: December 7, 2011 at 9:38 pm by Happy UnBeliever.)
(December 7, 2011 at 9:17 pm)Barre Wrote:(December 7, 2011 at 1:56 am)Stimbo Wrote: Agreed. Barre, you might be better off trying to float this on some xtian forum. Around here the first step would have to be to demonstrate why we should take anything from the bible seriously, before disappearing down the rabbit hole chasing after some esoteric spiritual meaning of the story. Not all of us automatically buy into the veracity of holy books, especially when the text is known to be filled with inaccuracies. distortions and pure fantasy. Hardly a reliable source of information.
The warrant for studying the Bible is on account of its tremendous influence. It is a classic work of western civilization and should be taken seriously for that reason. Of course these wriings offer a mix of fact and fiction.
Is this not what we would expect? I think you are bringing some baggage due to conversations with Christian thought, indeed conservative Christain thought and are consequently talking past me.
No, I attempt to offer an entirely secular, objective interpretation objective view of the biblical writings. I am an "existential pantheist." I do not subscribe to Christianity or Judaism. I study the biblical writings from the viewpoint of literary criticism and historical criticism as one might find in a college course on the Bible.
Quote: It is a classic work of western civilization and should be taken seriously for that reason.
If one is into mythology it might be.
Quote: I study the biblical writings from the viewpoint of literary criticism and historical criticism as one might find in a college course on the Bible.
I have studied enough to know that jesus was a mythological fairytale and has no historical value at all. He does not exist in ANTIQUITY, has no PRIMARY source for his EXISTENCE outside the BIBLE and the CHURCH has duped millions into believing this character actually exist.
The gMark is the biggest glaring evidence that jesus never lived at all. Well for that matter the entire NT is a FINE example of piss poor mythology gone bad. Your going to have to come one better than using the bible to prove itself.
I see you brought this debate over from here:
http://www.freeratio.org/showthread.php?t=309296
Could not get them to buy it so you pasted it here......nice one.
