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Here we go ...
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RE: Here we go ...
(February 1, 2023 at 6:18 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: IMO, the reason that people have believed in the idea that atenism and judaism were related is down to it presenting narrative continuity with magic book.  Magic book asserts that judaism was shaped, somehow, by egypt.  Trouble is, that never happened.

We could, if we wanted to, assume that atenism was monotheism and that the hebrew god is a copy of a copy..but even if those two things were true, it's still the case that the early yahwists were completely unaware of atenism and centuries removed from it.  So removed..case in point, they got their entire picture of egypt and their history with it fundamentally wrong in magic book.

If, in fact, atenism is monotheism and yahwism is monotheism, then just as independent examples of the set they demonstrate your thesis wrong.  Do you still think that correcting innaccurate views is important Justin?

Atenism was only the start. It was the later Zoroastrian religion that had the influence on the Semites. Yes, the dating issue is a problem, but as said, even the Zoroastrian end times information wound up in the Jewish religion.
"...and I saw clearly that men are not so far from the truth as they generally believe. Their greatest error is in searching for it where it is not, and in attaching it to forms, whereas they ought, on the contrary, to avoid form in order to dwell upon the essence."
Fabre D'Olivet
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Here we go ... - by Justin Case - January 29, 2023 at 3:47 pm
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RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - January 30, 2023 at 6:49 pm
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RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - January 30, 2023 at 6:47 pm
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RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - January 31, 2023 at 2:07 pm
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RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - January 30, 2023 at 5:32 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - January 29, 2023 at 6:05 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 29, 2023 at 8:09 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Mister Agenda - January 30, 2023 at 1:26 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - January 30, 2023 at 7:34 pm
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RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - January 30, 2023 at 7:57 pm
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RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - January 30, 2023 at 10:12 pm
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RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - January 31, 2023 at 9:45 am
RE: Here we go ... - by The Grand Nudger - January 31, 2023 at 3:02 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - January 31, 2023 at 3:23 pm
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RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - January 31, 2023 at 4:27 pm
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RE: Here we go ... - by Angrboda - January 31, 2023 at 8:03 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 1, 2023 at 12:44 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 1, 2023 at 1:21 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 1, 2023 at 1:55 pm
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RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 1, 2023 at 3:02 pm
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RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 1, 2023 at 5:00 pm
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RE: Here we go ... - by arewethereyet - February 1, 2023 at 1:20 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by The Grand Nudger - February 1, 2023 at 2:18 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 1, 2023 at 2:22 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by The Grand Nudger - February 1, 2023 at 2:59 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Fake Messiah - February 1, 2023 at 3:01 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 1, 2023 at 3:12 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by The Grand Nudger - February 1, 2023 at 3:03 pm
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RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 1, 2023 at 4:58 pm
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RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 1, 2023 at 6:02 pm
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RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 1, 2023 at 6:07 pm
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RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 1, 2023 at 7:09 pm
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RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 1, 2023 at 7:50 pm
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RE: Here we go ... - by arewethereyet - February 1, 2023 at 6:08 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by The Grand Nudger - February 1, 2023 at 6:09 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 1, 2023 at 6:47 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Nay_Sayer - February 1, 2023 at 6:11 pm
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RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 1, 2023 at 6:57 pm
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RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 2, 2023 at 1:37 pm
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RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 2, 2023 at 3:27 pm
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RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 2, 2023 at 4:51 pm
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RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 2, 2023 at 5:33 pm
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RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 2, 2023 at 8:11 pm
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RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 2, 2023 at 10:16 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by The Grand Nudger - February 1, 2023 at 10:19 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Angrboda - February 1, 2023 at 10:28 pm
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RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 3, 2023 at 12:53 pm
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RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 3, 2023 at 2:28 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Angrboda - February 3, 2023 at 2:41 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 3, 2023 at 2:55 pm
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RE: Here we go ... - by brewer - February 3, 2023 at 4:55 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Silver - February 3, 2023 at 9:43 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by The Grand Nudger - February 3, 2023 at 3:00 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 3, 2023 at 3:04 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by The Grand Nudger - February 3, 2023 at 3:07 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 3, 2023 at 3:18 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by The Grand Nudger - February 3, 2023 at 3:33 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 3, 2023 at 4:22 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Angrboda - February 4, 2023 at 12:16 am
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