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Here we go ...
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RE: Here we go ...
(February 1, 2023 at 7:11 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote:
(February 1, 2023 at 6:47 pm)Justin Case Wrote: The idea is, these gods (plural) or god (singular) do not exist. They were an interpretational explanation of either something that exists that they didn't understand, or, the ENTIRE picture is made up. If you look at the Egyptian and Sumerian afterlife picture, they were both different explanations. Was the idea of the afterlife right to start with, and these explanation were all made up? We come from thousands of years of natural hallucinogenic drug use, and what these people saw while tripping could be the foundational picture behind everything talked about. Then too, between studies on NDEs (as long as they were shown to be flat line brain dead) and the subject we call the paranormal, there definitely seems to be SOMETHING going on, and the "GOD" idea was just an ancient interpretation of this known about picture.

The idea of the afterlife predates and is independent of either picture..and not by a little, by a lot.  100kya at least.  You don't need drugs to come up with afterlives.  You need only be able to dream, to love, and to miss the lost.  If you're interested in this, history won't help you, it's prehistory.

But you missed what I meant ... at the start of writing both the Egyptian and Sumerian "explanations" regarding this subject differed. So, how lost were we?

Before writing, there is no data present that verifies what was believed. I think it was there myself, but there's no hard data to verify it.
"...and I saw clearly that men are not so far from the truth as they generally believe. Their greatest error is in searching for it where it is not, and in attaching it to forms, whereas they ought, on the contrary, to avoid form in order to dwell upon the essence."
Fabre D'Olivet
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Here we go ... - by Justin Case - January 29, 2023 at 3:47 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Nay_Sayer - January 29, 2023 at 4:14 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Fake Messiah - January 29, 2023 at 4:15 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Nay_Sayer - January 29, 2023 at 4:18 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - January 29, 2023 at 4:35 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by brewer - January 29, 2023 at 4:49 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - January 29, 2023 at 4:54 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by brewer - January 29, 2023 at 11:04 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - January 30, 2023 at 5:10 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by brewer - January 30, 2023 at 5:35 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - January 30, 2023 at 6:49 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Aegon - January 30, 2023 at 5:47 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - January 30, 2023 at 6:47 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Aegon - January 31, 2023 at 1:18 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - January 31, 2023 at 2:07 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Fake Messiah - January 29, 2023 at 11:30 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - January 30, 2023 at 5:32 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - January 29, 2023 at 6:05 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 29, 2023 at 8:09 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Mister Agenda - January 30, 2023 at 1:26 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - January 30, 2023 at 7:34 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by arewethereyet - January 30, 2023 at 7:44 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - January 30, 2023 at 7:57 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by arewethereyet - January 30, 2023 at 7:59 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - January 30, 2023 at 10:12 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Aegon - January 31, 2023 at 1:19 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Nay_Sayer - January 30, 2023 at 10:06 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by arewethereyet - January 30, 2023 at 10:31 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Nay_Sayer - January 30, 2023 at 10:37 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Fireball - January 30, 2023 at 10:38 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by arewethereyet - January 30, 2023 at 10:40 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - January 31, 2023 at 9:45 am
RE: Here we go ... - by The Grand Nudger - January 31, 2023 at 3:02 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - January 31, 2023 at 3:23 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 31, 2023 at 3:45 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - January 31, 2023 at 4:29 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 31, 2023 at 4:48 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Angrboda - January 31, 2023 at 3:28 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - January 31, 2023 at 4:25 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by HappySkeptic - January 31, 2023 at 3:29 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - January 31, 2023 at 4:27 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by arewethereyet - January 31, 2023 at 6:19 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Angrboda - January 31, 2023 at 8:03 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 1, 2023 at 12:44 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 1, 2023 at 1:21 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 1, 2023 at 1:55 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 1, 2023 at 2:42 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 1, 2023 at 3:02 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 1, 2023 at 4:10 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 1, 2023 at 5:00 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 1, 2023 at 6:01 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by arewethereyet - February 1, 2023 at 1:20 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by The Grand Nudger - February 1, 2023 at 2:18 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 1, 2023 at 2:22 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by The Grand Nudger - February 1, 2023 at 2:59 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Fake Messiah - February 1, 2023 at 3:01 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 1, 2023 at 3:12 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by The Grand Nudger - February 1, 2023 at 3:03 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by The Grand Nudger - February 1, 2023 at 3:15 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 1, 2023 at 3:20 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by arewethereyet - February 1, 2023 at 3:22 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 1, 2023 at 4:58 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by The Grand Nudger - February 1, 2023 at 3:34 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Fake Messiah - February 1, 2023 at 4:00 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 1, 2023 at 4:56 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by arewethereyet - February 1, 2023 at 5:02 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 1, 2023 at 6:02 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by The Grand Nudger - February 1, 2023 at 6:02 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 1, 2023 at 6:07 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 1, 2023 at 6:13 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 1, 2023 at 7:09 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 1, 2023 at 7:25 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 1, 2023 at 7:45 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 1, 2023 at 8:40 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 1, 2023 at 7:50 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by arewethereyet - February 1, 2023 at 6:07 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 1, 2023 at 6:08 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by arewethereyet - February 1, 2023 at 6:08 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by arewethereyet - February 1, 2023 at 6:08 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by The Grand Nudger - February 1, 2023 at 6:09 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 1, 2023 at 6:47 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Nay_Sayer - February 1, 2023 at 6:11 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by The Grand Nudger - February 1, 2023 at 6:18 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 1, 2023 at 6:57 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by The Grand Nudger - February 1, 2023 at 7:01 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by The Grand Nudger - February 1, 2023 at 7:11 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 1, 2023 at 7:17 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Nay_Sayer - February 1, 2023 at 7:50 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 1, 2023 at 7:53 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Nay_Sayer - February 1, 2023 at 8:15 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by brewer - February 1, 2023 at 9:42 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 2, 2023 at 1:37 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Fake Messiah - February 2, 2023 at 2:00 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 2, 2023 at 2:40 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by brewer - February 2, 2023 at 3:08 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 2, 2023 at 3:27 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 2, 2023 at 3:50 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 2, 2023 at 4:51 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 2, 2023 at 5:18 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 2, 2023 at 5:33 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 2, 2023 at 7:07 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by brewer - February 2, 2023 at 7:23 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 2, 2023 at 8:11 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by brewer - February 2, 2023 at 9:38 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 2, 2023 at 10:19 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Silver - February 2, 2023 at 9:40 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 2, 2023 at 10:16 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by The Grand Nudger - February 1, 2023 at 10:19 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Angrboda - February 1, 2023 at 10:28 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by The Grand Nudger - February 2, 2023 at 4:10 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 3, 2023 at 12:53 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 3, 2023 at 12:59 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 3, 2023 at 2:28 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Angrboda - February 3, 2023 at 2:41 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 3, 2023 at 2:55 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Angrboda - February 3, 2023 at 3:06 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by brewer - February 3, 2023 at 4:55 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Silver - February 3, 2023 at 9:43 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by The Grand Nudger - February 3, 2023 at 3:00 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 3, 2023 at 3:04 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by The Grand Nudger - February 3, 2023 at 3:07 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 3, 2023 at 3:18 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by The Grand Nudger - February 3, 2023 at 3:33 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Justin Case - February 3, 2023 at 4:22 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by Angrboda - February 4, 2023 at 12:16 am
RE: Here we go ... - by Nay_Sayer - February 4, 2023 at 1:15 am
RE: Here we go ... - by brewer - February 7, 2023 at 3:55 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by arewethereyet - February 3, 2023 at 3:35 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by The Grand Nudger - February 3, 2023 at 3:46 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by arewethereyet - February 3, 2023 at 4:38 pm
RE: Here we go ... - by The Grand Nudger - February 3, 2023 at 4:44 pm



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