(March 12, 2023 at 11:55 am)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: People in all professions have blind spots, and have differing opinions on different issues within those fields. So by default, since they don't all agree, many of them are wrong on certain issues, since not everyone can be correct. You working with NATO in the past did not stop you from being wrong and me from being right. You said there was zero evidence that NATO interfered in the peace deal, as if we literally have to be in the room with every world leader and hear all the convos ourselves to even begin to understand anything that's going on, and you used Christopher Hitchens to make your argument for you. You refused to actually address my point in depth, because you claimed that it was unworthy of debate since there was no evidence. In hindsight at least, you should now see that I didn't just make a lucky guess about NATO interfering in the peace deal. You still won't admit that my stance was entirely justified at the time based on the information we had on the ground, and you missed the obvious. You didn't try to make an argument at the time based on your experience working with NATO or anything like that. You didn't say, "based on my experience with NATO, this is why I think this is unlikely" or anything of the sort. You just said, here's a Hitch quote. You couldn't do your own arguing based on your experience, so why bring up that experience now?
You're still sore about falling afoul of Hitchens's Razor, eh? Can't say I blame you. I asked for evidence, what I got was so scanty as to be worthless, and now you put forth as evidence a comment from one who is neither NATO nor Ukrainian in an attempt to bolster your case -- immediately after you comment that even alleged authorities can get it wrong.
The Ukrainians themselves scuppered peace-talks by demanding the return of Crimea, a condition th Russians wouldn't accede to -- and the Ukrainians likely knew that.
(March 12, 2023 at 11:55 am)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: Seeing the real picture of your hair is not going to stop me from seeing Trump and only Trump playing the guitar. Knowing that a cloud is a cloud doesn't stop me from seeing a bunny rabbit in the sky, if I've already seen it as that. But congrats. You don't have Trumps haircut. The only true thing you've said so far.
That -- all of it -- sounds like a you problem, ... "bro". I can't and don't want to control what you see, i'm just busy showing you how your perspective can play games with things.
(March 12, 2023 at 11:55 am)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: And if you think I'm fapping to dead Ukrainians and daddy Putin, I'm a peacenik. It's some of the other people on here that say they would refuse any ending to the war until Ukraine takes back Crimea, so these people want endless war and death. Not me.
I didn't say you "wanted" war. I wrote that you (and Bel) are busy justifying an illegal and horrific invasion, which you are indeed doing.
