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(June 27, 2009 at 5:55 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: The only thing I had real issue with in the video was his statement that, and correct me if I am wrong here, if any Muslim man (even if he were 50) were to choose to take a young woman as his wife for the purpose of sexual relations and children that is OK by historical/religious precedent. That (even using his own argument, particularly in the earlier parts) is wrong because it clearly depends on the culture within which you live. If he lives in Arabia and the laws support that age for sexual relations then it is acceptable (it isn't actually that simple because Arabia isn't a land where laws tend to be rights-based so laws don't reflect mortality and the UN which is trying to establish a number of standards, including some relating child sex and so on, is trying to set a higher standards in these respects but we'll skip that for now) because that is, as the gentlemen said, their culture (not ours) but that DOES NOT mean that a Muslim man gets that right when he lives in a country that does not grant him that right and in fact says that it is illegal. And that is the point I was making to you, not specifically that Mohammed was a paedophile, but that you said you would follow his example and that he (by our standards in The West, indeed by most civilised countries in the world) would today be considered a paedophile.

So the question P2U is, where do you live?

Kyu

I currently live in UK. I know that the law for marriage is 16 here, so if I were to marry I would have to marry within this limit and I have no objections to it as I prefer marrying someone my age due to maturity and compatibility issues. When I said that I would try to follow his example it doesn't mean that I have to marry a young girl. If I choose to marry someone older than that is ok and would not be going against his way.

His reason to set the marriage age for men and women to puberty was to avoid problems in the future as it was custom before the pre-Islamic era that young girls before puberty were often married. Also, now in many countries young men and women are married and are involved in pre-marriage sexual relations before the age of puberty. And, as you know, teenagers tend to go through puberty at different age all around the world.

Finally (and this is a bit off the topic), I have travelled a few countries, I have realised that young men and women especially in Islamic and African countries tend to be much more mature and responsible than their counterpart age group in European countries like UK. I have some relatives aged 15, 16 back in my home country and they are twice as much as mature and responsible than many of the UK’s 15, 16 and up to 21 year olds.
peace2u
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Hi - by peace2u - May 30, 2009 at 2:58 pm
RE: Hi - by Darwinian - May 30, 2009 at 2:59 pm
RE: Hi - by Edwardo Piet - May 30, 2009 at 3:00 pm
RE: Hi - by Kyuuketsuki - May 30, 2009 at 4:24 pm
RE: Hi - by Giff - June 1, 2009 at 8:24 am
RE: Hi - by Kyuuketsuki - June 1, 2009 at 2:44 pm
RE: Hi - by peace2u - June 2, 2009 at 10:52 am
RE: Hi - by Kyuuketsuki - June 2, 2009 at 1:10 pm
RE: Hi - by peace2u - June 2, 2009 at 5:29 pm
RE: Hi - by Kyuuketsuki - June 2, 2009 at 6:07 pm
RE: Hi - by Samson - May 30, 2009 at 8:30 pm
RE: Hi - by Samson - June 2, 2009 at 6:28 pm
RE: Hi - by leo-rcc - June 3, 2009 at 1:31 am
RE: Hi - by peace2u - June 5, 2009 at 3:45 pm
RE: Hi - by leo-rcc - June 5, 2009 at 4:25 pm
RE: Hi - by peace2u - June 5, 2009 at 5:37 pm
RE: Hi - by Kyuuketsuki - June 5, 2009 at 5:43 pm
RE: Hi - by leo-rcc - June 5, 2009 at 6:25 pm
RE: Hi - by Dotard - June 6, 2009 at 7:54 am
RE: Hi - by leo-rcc - June 6, 2009 at 9:38 am
RE: Hi - by Kyuuketsuki - June 5, 2009 at 4:40 pm
RE: Hi - by peace2u - June 5, 2009 at 5:59 pm
RE: Hi - by Kyuuketsuki - June 5, 2009 at 6:19 pm
RE: Hi - by peace2u - June 6, 2009 at 11:36 am
RE: Hi - by Edwardo Piet - June 6, 2009 at 12:06 pm
RE: Hi - by Kyuuketsuki - June 6, 2009 at 4:03 pm
RE: Hi - by Darwinian - June 6, 2009 at 12:04 pm
RE: Hi - by Dotard - June 6, 2009 at 7:34 pm
RE: Hi - by peace2u - June 7, 2009 at 7:38 am
RE: Hi - by Kyuuketsuki - June 7, 2009 at 8:09 am
RE: Hi - by Dotard - June 9, 2009 at 8:24 am
RE: Hi - by Kyuuketsuki - June 9, 2009 at 10:28 am
RE: Hi - by Kyuuketsuki - June 7, 2009 at 3:42 am
RE: Hi - by peace2u - June 7, 2009 at 7:47 am
RE: Hi - by Darwinian - June 7, 2009 at 7:44 am
RE: Hi - by peace2u - June 9, 2009 at 6:17 pm
RE: Hi - by Kyuuketsuki - June 10, 2009 at 3:46 am
RE: Hi - by Sam - June 16, 2009 at 3:53 pm
RE: Hi - by Kyuuketsuki - June 16, 2009 at 4:02 pm
RE: Hi - by Sam - June 16, 2009 at 4:15 pm
RE: Hi - by peace2u - June 27, 2009 at 4:29 pm
RE: Hi - by Kyuuketsuki - June 27, 2009 at 5:55 pm
RE: Hi - by peace2u - June 28, 2009 at 1:22 pm
RE: Hi - by Kyuuketsuki - June 28, 2009 at 2:28 pm
RE: Hi - by peace2u - June 28, 2009 at 5:22 pm
RE: Hi - by Kyuuketsuki - June 28, 2009 at 5:31 pm
RE: Hi - by peace2u - June 28, 2009 at 5:53 pm
RE: Hi - by Kyuuketsuki - June 29, 2009 at 8:36 am
RE: Hi - by Darwinian - June 7, 2009 at 7:50 am
RE: Hi - by Darwinian - June 7, 2009 at 8:16 am
RE: Hi - by peace2u - June 9, 2009 at 6:34 pm
RE: Hi - by Matt85 - June 8, 2009 at 8:34 pm
RE: Hi - by Tiberius - June 9, 2009 at 6:33 pm
RE: Hi - by Tiberius - June 9, 2009 at 6:46 pm
RE: Hi - by Tiberius - June 29, 2009 at 1:56 am
RE: Hi - by peace2u - July 3, 2009 at 11:46 am



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