(June 28, 2009 at 10:59 am)g-mark Wrote:EvF Wrote:"reaosn to believe that there is ANYHTING NON-phyiscal."
Is god physical EvF?
How should I know? I know of no evidence of his existence at all. He is generally thought of as non-physical it seems...but that is irrelevant to my point that is that I don't know of any real reason to believe in anything non-physical. Doesn't matter if God is generally defined as non-physical or not, if there's no evidence that he or anything else non-physical actually exists...why believe?
Quote:Also prove to me that the Universe is 87 odd % dark matter.Why would I need to do that? I don't believe ever making any such claim...? I know nothing about it.
All I know on the matter is that i heard on QI that "Most of the universe is unaccounted for"
I'm not the best one to ask on that matter exactly!!
Quote:You know it is there,No I don't.
Quote:but you cannot prove it.correct. As I said - I know nothing of the matter really.
Quote:Why are most politicaians and people of real power religious, spiritual or they believing in something greater?I don't know. You can use religion to abuse your power...but most people are religious anyway! And America is a very religious country (for example)...and America has a lot of power...I dunno...
Quote:I was just wondering whether you dismiss a god because of the church,
Quote:actions of the church,Not when it comes to dismissing his actual existence, no. That wouldn't make sense.
Quote:human religions beliefs,No, see above.
Quote:lack of evidenceThat's why I don't believe in God, yes. Lack of evidence.
Quote:or some other reason that goes against who you are.No, it's got nothing to do with 'who I am', it's a matter of fact...I find it difficult to believe in something when I just don't because I am not remotely convinced that such a thing actually exists, because I know no evidence whatsoever! Especially for a complex deity such as God.
Quote:You say lack of evidence!I do. That's why I don't believe in God. No evidence.
Quote:Why then has religion been repeatedly recorded throughout history as having some real physical objective essence to it?There's no actual evidence...so whether people claim throughout history or not for there to be objectivity in religion...there's no actual evidence of God's existence...so, pfft. What exactly do you mean actual recorded physical objective essence? Because there's no actual evidence! Or if there is...please show me!! Ha.
Quote:If it has no truth to it what so ever, why do so manyDoesn't matter how many people believe it. That's not evidence of the truth of it at all. If everyone on the planet were convinced the FSM exists...that in itself is not evidence...they'd just be brainwashed! Or something to that effect
people believe in something grater?
Quote:Are they all illogiccal and irrational beings. I think not. Some of the greatest people, if not the greatest people in human history were religious or believed in something greater than themselves.It's not evidence. And you don't have to be an 'illogical and irrational human being' to have an illogical and irrational belief. You could be a genius and still believe in God, as you say...of course. But that doesn't mean there's evidence for God...if there actually is....where??
Quote:I offer you this as evidence of something greater.
It's not evidence of God. It's evidence of belief in God. Show me then how any of this actually indicates that God actually exists...if you could??