A Rebellious People

[Deesse23]

After all these pages you still didnt understand a thing.
In YOUR world, its not up to you to decide whats gonna happen. You will not have come to the point where you decide to stay hooked. Your opinion on this will be IRRELEVANT.
Its not about what you choose and why, but about the fact that you can NOT choose.



Yes you do. Otherwise please tell us in which case person #1 has the right to use the body of person #2, and person #2 has no say in this.
GO!


Bolding mine
And again, i call you out for misogynism, you misogynist peice of shit. Women get pregnant all the time, mosty without being promiscuous.
Your disdain for women really shows. So, fuck you.

not necessary to proivde yet more evidece of your misogyny.

How did you come to hate all women so much. Was that prevalent before your religion poisoned your mind, or were you a misogynist piece of shit beforehand?

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Disdain for women? I'm not the one advocating that a mother should rip the life of her child from her womb in one of the most grotesque ways possible known to man. Also your only response was to call me a misogynist. As for what gives them the right? I've stated it multiple times, because they are a sentient being capable of feeling fear and love, and sentient beings are given the right to life, the mother had she not wanted children could have easily chosen not to welcome that seed into her womb, in the act of her copulation she consented for that life to grow in her because she did invite that seed into her womb. Again you reprobate you should not advocate for the shedding of innocent blood over a childish desire to be free from responsibility, you should mature and grow up and accept responsibility for your actions, as should all women who find themselves mothers to be. Saying that innocent children should be murdered by the hand of their own mother just because society said its acceptable does not make it right, rather it shows the degradation of our society and the lack of respect that is given to human life. How can you call yourself a humanitarian when you advocate to shed innocent blood? When you advocate that a mother should murder their own children. Who really is the misogynist here? Because if you really cared about women you would hold them to a higher standard than the one you currently do. It is the standards we set for ourselves that determines how we live our lives.

You clearly have very low standards if you advocate for a mother to take the life of her own child.

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You failed to provide a scenario where person #1 is allowed to use the body of person #2 without person #2 consent. You conveniently ignore to adress that you DEMONSTRABLY are giving fetuses special rights.
You also did not apologize for usage of the term "promiscuity" as a broad brush to talk about the situation(s) at hand (i am not even adressing your incredibly discusting "spread her legs" statement, but it tells us a LOT about you).
You keep using emotional, loaded language. Stop that. Its not useful for a fruitful discussion. It only shows your silent admission to having no good arguments for your cause.
You also never listen, never learn. NONE denies a fetuses right to live. So please stop rambling straw man. We all know by now how intellectually lazy you are, but its getting annoying.

Until you change any of this, ill keep calling your out for what you are: A misogynist piece of shit.

in the act of her copulation she consented for that life to grow in her because she did invite that seed into her womb.

Consent to intercourse does not equal consent to pregnancy. How often has that been told to you?

You clearly have very low standards if you advocate for a mother to take the life of her own child

Being a dishonest (see: loadad language) misogynist (see: promiscuity) piece of shit, you clearly are not equipped (or willing, it seems) to have any meaningful discussion about my standards.

We can have a civil discussion, if you desire. But you need to improve some things in your wording and demeanor:

• stop using loaded language (child =!= fetus, abortion =!= murder, etc, pp)
  
• stop being misogynist, aka stop using deroatory terms for women and their actions (unless you want me to use derogatory words for you and your actions)
  
• Stop strawmanning: We are talking about bodily autonomy, not the right to live. Stop insinuating that people here deny fetuses any right to live
  

If you cant bring yourself to the point of having an informed discussion, to be willing to even understand the opponents perspective before you evaluae it, this "discussion" was over long before it began. Unlike you, most people here DO understand your position, have commented on it, adressed issues (dishonesty, inconsistency aka special rights to fetuses, misogyny), have provided their own standards.

How can you call yourself a humanitarian when you advocate to shed innocent blood?

You dont seem to understand humanitarism. You dont seem to understand the ethical conflict humanitarians would like to adress.
I will leave you at that and hopefully will find some time later today, to briefly outline this to you. We will also see if you are prepared and willing to engage, or if all you have is being polemic.