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A Rebellious People
RE: A Rebellious People
(June 29, 2023 at 2:33 am)Authari Wrote:
(June 28, 2023 at 12:24 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: Bold portion mine.

This is absolutely not true.

The Amazon river dolphin or boto has been reported to form up in bands of 3–5 individuals engaging in sexual activity. The groups usually comprise young males and sometimes one or two females.

Courtship, mounting, and full anal penetration between bulls has been noted to occur among American bison.

More than 20 species of bat have been documented to engage in homosexual behavior.

African and Asian male elephants will engage in same-sex bonding and mounting. Male elephants, who often live apart from the general herd, often form "companionships", consisting of an older individual and one or sometimes two younger males with sexual behavior being an important part of the social dynamic.

Male giraffes have been observed to engage in remarkably high frequencies of homosexual behavior. After aggressive "necking", it is common for two male giraffes to caress and court each other, leading up to mounting and climax. Such interactions between males have been found to be more frequent than heterosexual coupling. In one study, up to 94% of observed mounting incidents took place between two males.

Ovis aries (sheep) has attracted much attention due to the fact that around 8–10% of rams have an exclusive homosexual orientation. Such rams prefer to court and mount other rams only, even in the presence of estrous ewes. Moreover, around 18–22% of rams are bisexual.

This is just a small list of non reproduction type is sex in the natural world. Lions, giraffes, Orangutans, gorillas, bats, penguins, polecats, are a few more.

And, as someone else mentioned, bonobo chimps (our closest cousins), are quite active in various non reproductive sexual activities.

So, if you are so utterly wrong about this, just think about all the other things you are wrong about.

i see you went with the odd cases of walruses having sex with penguins, preferring the extraordinary cases to the ordinary, indeed you will find I don't deny that these things happen, just that it is by and large in the animal kingdom the norm for sex to be purely an act of procreation.

However having said that, in your pursuit to look up the extraordinary cases and compile them in a list to try to debunk my post, you also willfully departed from any intention in countering the rest of the post, so now all you've done is try to disprove one thing to disprove everything, which an admirable attempt I must say, but you still disregarded the main fact here. Sex is meant to be an act of procreation, trying to deny such is like trying to deny your own humanity. So you haven't disproven anything, all you've made abundantly clear is that some animals prefer homosexual behavior, which I'm glad you're so open-minded about the right for giraffes to love who they want to and that you support their 'sexual freedom' but you can not seem to offer any empathy at all for the human infant that still dwells within the womb. Your love for animals over humans is detestable, to say the least.

I did nothing of the sort.

I listed many species known for having sex for non-procreative reasons. Most of the examples I mentioned are actually quite common. None of them are extraordinary cases. They are observed in nature all the time.

None of the examples I mentioned were anything close to 'walruses trying to have sex with penguins'. They were all within the same species, and for the purpose of social bonds, and sexual gratification.

Hell, left-handedness in humans is more rare than the non-procreative sex examples I listed above.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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A Rebellious People - by Authari - June 21, 2023 at 8:18 am
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RE: A Rebellious People - by arewethereyet - June 21, 2023 at 8:20 am
RE: A Rebellious People - by h4ym4n - June 21, 2023 at 8:23 am
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RE: A Rebellious People - by Authari - June 21, 2023 at 8:35 am
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