I'm bored, so I'll bite, even though I have seen this worm before.
Denial is not belief. It is disbelief, at best. The latter half of this is actually incorrect. Agnosticism is not a lack of belief. Agnosticism takes many forms, none of them the above.
Ayup, so do it, theist boy. I presume you have already jumped to your conclusion before discovering this tidbit.
Yeah, but who the fuck believes that and what the fuck does it have to do with atheism?
Try familiarizing yourself with any of the social sciences and then come back.
Oh, look, word salad. Mmmm . . . salad.
All right, I'm full. I'm skipping the next course and getting to the stuff that actually has anything to do with atheism or is at least translatable.
Ignorance is not a logical fallacy. It only becomes one when theists talk about god. If you cannot spell fallacy, you should refrain from telling people they are committing one.
Making up definitions is fun. Did you know that flowers are actually anal beads? I know, weird.
In this case, the parenthetical aside is absolutely true. The latter is ridiculous. Theists just do not understand that you cannot attack something that is not real. We know full well we are attacking religion and sometimes the asshats who promote it like a fucking car salesman.
Oh, goody. I love this one. It makes you feel better to think you have more insight into individuals than you actually do. It saves you from having to face the fact that you understand next to nothing about your self-chosen opponents.
No, it is an attempt to redefine the beliefs of others, which is far more contemptible, in my opinion.
Duh. We do not argue "against" god. There is no fucking god.
Bah. You'll get whatever you get and be grateful you got the attention you seek. There is nothing to debate. You cannot tell people what they believe and expect them to "respect" your "debate." You're also so wrong that I predict this thread will be a lot of "Hey, look at the idiot." Oh, and you forfeited your right to respect when you called atheists ignorant about four times in your OP. Commence the fart-sucking, dickwad.
(December 18, 2011 at 3:08 pm)amkerman Wrote: Atheism is correctly termed as a belief that there are no gods and is no God; it is not a lack of belief, a simple lack of belief is agnosticism. Atheism is a conviction.
Denial is not belief. It is disbelief, at best. The latter half of this is actually incorrect. Agnosticism is not a lack of belief. Agnosticism takes many forms, none of them the above.
Quote:Any belief, if sound, must logically be taken to it's ultimate conclusion to be proven.
Ayup, so do it, theist boy. I presume you have already jumped to your conclusion before discovering this tidbit.
Quote:A belief that some things are inherently good or bad, that there is purpose, value, meaning, or any objective reality aty all outside of human perception, necessitates faith.
Yeah, but who the fuck believes that and what the fuck does it have to do with atheism?
Quote:There is absolutely no empirical evidence that murder is "bad". Such a hypothesis necessarily denotes that value judgements are true.
Value judgements are only possible through observation of a conscious entity.
Try familiarizing yourself with any of the social sciences and then come back.
Quote:A belief that value judgements are true necessitates consciousness as a primary function of the universe, rather than a purely mechanical universe.
Oh, look, word salad. Mmmm . . . salad.
Quote:A belief that consciousness is a primary function of the universe, that consciousness pervades everything and is true apart from time or space, that things are in fact "real", that some things are inherently bad or good, right or wrong, true or not true, would be correctly termed a belief in "God".
All right, I'm full. I'm skipping the next course and getting to the stuff that actually has anything to do with atheism or is at least translatable.
Quote:A belief that this "God" does not exist is illogical. it is committing a fallicy of ignorance and contrary to all scientific observation and acheivment.
Ignorance is not a logical fallacy. It only becomes one when theists talk about god. If you cannot spell fallacy, you should refrain from telling people they are committing one.
Quote:Atheism is a belief that things are not real.
Making up definitions is fun. Did you know that flowers are actually anal beads? I know, weird.
Quote:Most atheists, with their limited intellects (which usually surpass the intellects of their theist counterparts) believe that they attack or disbelieve iin "God" when in reality they are simply attacking religion.
In this case, the parenthetical aside is absolutely true. The latter is ridiculous. Theists just do not understand that you cannot attack something that is not real. We know full well we are attacking religion and sometimes the asshats who promote it like a fucking car salesman.
Quote:Logically, if one was being intellectually honest, most atheists actually believe in what would correctly be termed a montheistic deity, of "God", that truth and reality exist outside of human comprehension and understanding, even if they say they don't.
Oh, goody. I love this one. It makes you feel better to think you have more insight into individuals than you actually do. It saves you from having to face the fact that you understand next to nothing about your self-chosen opponents.
Quote:This is not an attempt to force my beliefs on anyone.
No, it is an attempt to redefine the beliefs of others, which is far more contemptible, in my opinion.
Quote: any argument made by atheists is ultimately not an argument against God, it is an argument against particular religious beliefs.
Duh. We do not argue "against" god. There is no fucking god.
Quote:I encourage lively and respectful debate.
Bah. You'll get whatever you get and be grateful you got the attention you seek. There is nothing to debate. You cannot tell people what they believe and expect them to "respect" your "debate." You're also so wrong that I predict this thread will be a lot of "Hey, look at the idiot." Oh, and you forfeited your right to respect when you called atheists ignorant about four times in your OP. Commence the fart-sucking, dickwad.