(December 18, 2011 at 5:37 pm)amkerman Wrote: Otana: agnosticism is simply acknowledging your own ignorance. I have not defined God. I can not define God. I have simply stated that any belief in an objective reality necessitates a belief in something that would correctly be termed a monotheistic deity. Consciousness as a primary function and law of the universe, like gravity.
Quote:The atheist may however be, and not unfrequently is, an agnostic. There is an agnostic atheism or atheistic agnosticism, and the combination of atheism with agnosticism which may be so named is not an uncommon one.That should help clear things up for ya.
If a man has failed to find any good reason for believing that there is a God, it is perfectly natural and rational that he should not believe that there is a God; and if so, he is an atheist... if he goes farther, and, after an investigation into the nature and reach of human knowledge, ending in the conclusion that the existence of God is incapable of proof, cease to believe in it on the ground that he cannot know it to be true, he is an agnostic and also an atheist – an agnostic-atheist – an atheist because an agnostic... while, then, it is erroneous to identify agnosticism and atheism, it is equally erroneous so to separate them as if the one were exclusive of the other...
Atheist because I don't believe in god, agnostic because I don't know whether a god exists or not, holding the view that it is either unknown or unknowable.
That is my stance. No claims made, no belief, no burden of proof. Simply stating that I am without belief in a god or gods.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.