(December 18, 2011 at 5:49 pm)amkerman Wrote: Fine Darwinning, live your life. Live it well. Believe things without proof, just know that your beliefs are entirely your own; they are not rooted in any sort of logic or reality; argue with religion and claim there beliefs are entirely their own, not rooted in any sort of logic or reality... It's willfully ignorant and insultingly hypocritical as I am sure you know, but you obviously are content with that.
You seem to be confuddeling logic, proof and reality. I think proof is useful, but never without the possibility of error. Proof is still better than no proof. Logic is still better than "Goddidit".
I believe things I consider probable. I know I might always be wrong. I believe that is the only position a rational human being can take. If you think you know anything about reality, anything at all, you are deceived.
I am not trying to be insulting. I know God can not be proven to exist or not. But the least a theist could do is convince me that it is in any way probable that he does. I have yet to be convinced.
(December 18, 2011 at 5:49 pm)amkerman Wrote: "Science is not the art of revealing objective reality"... you are aware that science vehemently disagrees with you on that point, but believe what you will.
I do not think it does. The whole point of scientific theories being falsify-able is that scientists should always consider the possibility that they are wrong, even if the odds are really, really, really small.
