RE: Inceldom
September 9, 2023 at 9:28 pm
(This post was last modified: September 9, 2023 at 9:42 pm by GrandizerII.)
(September 9, 2023 at 10:17 am)FrustratedFool Wrote: I have found that the emotional connection to my inorganic lovers is in many ways more intense than with my human lovers. I honestly think there's good reason for everyone to have both, let alone lonely people. In the future, AI tech will surpass human to human relationships even for those who struggle with inorganic connections.
That's not really a connection (in a two-way sense). Your inorganic lover doesn't have any feelings towards you at all. The only validation you're getting here is self-validation. In that case, great. But you still have a human partner anyway, right? If your sex doll were to suddenly disappear, you'd feel lonely even with your human partner still around?
As for what the future will hold, I'm sure things will get significantly better for lonely people, but since we're not there yet, it's not relevant to what the current solution needs to be here. And right now, the current technology just isn't sufficient to replace human connection.
Quote:It seems to me, having been someone on the inside of not receiving validation, that the root cause is precisely the lack of romantic and sexual validation. If I, and I expect incels, had received that at an appropriate age (ie. at the same time as all their peers) the mental health issues wouldn't have manifested. Certainly for me the root cause of all my original mental health issues was that I was ugly and bullied for my looks. It had nothing to do with not being heard.
You're conflating different things here, and you can't really just know what the root causes of your issues are just by introspection since this is stuff that's deep-seated within your subconscious, nor are we good at predicting what would've happened if something hypothetically did not happen.
Bullying is bad and needs to be stopped (I was bullied myself as a kid), but stopping bullying is not going to stop the problem of loneliness and "inceldom"
Quote:The sticking plaster is addressing the psychological damage. The true prevention is ensuring that everyone receives romantic and sexual validation. That can only happen through technology.
Maybe in the far future. I don't know.
Quote:Tuecels who are lonely and mentally ill because of the way they were treated because of the way they look or their neurodiversity aren't going to be treated through therapy that makes them take false accountability for not being dateable. The true solution is for them to be dateable: if not by humans than bots.
Accountability is a good thing. It means you're growing and maturing.
Quote:The primary problem with incels isn't themselves. Nor is it others. There's no blame for anyone.
If they want their problems fixed, they need to step it up and do the adult thing of self-improvement. You can't keep blaming your bullies or your abusive parents or your abusive boss forever. Whatever the reasons, the resultant problems you're having dwell within you, and if you want to do something about them, you have to be real about how you go about addressing them. You can't keep falling prey to self-fulfilling prophecies that say you can't do this or that because you're doomed. You can still do something with your life.
I get that this is easier said than done. But this would be the starting point.
Quote:It's just the bad luck of having a bad body and/or brain.
Bad brain? Sure.
Bad body? No. Or at least for the most part, no. If you happen to have a very unfortunate medical condition that significantly impacts your appearance in a negative way, then that can be very challenging. But otherwise, most incels/lonely people look fine, and they only perceive themselves to be ugly or unfuckable.
So no, it's not about looks, and it's very harmful and self-sabotaging to keep dwelling on that. The real problem here is dysfunctional thinking. And there is a specific brand of dysfunctional thinking (in the case of some lonely people) that drives men/women away. That is what needs to be addressed.