RE: Argument against atheism
December 18, 2011 at 11:38 pm
(This post was last modified: December 18, 2011 at 11:42 pm by Jackalope.)
(December 18, 2011 at 11:25 pm)amkerman Wrote: All I claimed was that it was illogical for atheists to believe in objective morality but not believe in something that would be called God.
Who said that atheists do believe in objective morality? I certainly don't, and based on conversations we've had here on that very topic, not many here do.
I could go so far as to argue that in order for any standard of morality to be objective at all, it would have to be so independent of any deity or mortal being. That is, unless you want to go redefine objectivity to as special pleading for a deity.
Even ignoring all of that, you're still left with the problem that "something that would be called god" is so ill-defined as to be useless as a point of discussion. Solidify that definition so everyone's all on the same page, and then maybe there will be something to be discuss. Otherwise, it's far to easy for the goalposts to get moved.
P.S. - If you're going to bring an argument that you know is going to generate a lot of disagreement, in a forum where such arguments are heard and refuted on a daily basis.... You had better do your fucking homework and bring your 'A' game. Which, judging by the responses you're getting - you haven't done by any reasonable standard.