RE: Argument against atheism
December 19, 2011 at 1:22 am
(This post was last modified: December 19, 2011 at 1:25 am by thesummerqueen.)
Now we're getting somewhere, except you're going to have to split that up.
Are we going to discuss if things are objectively real, or if things are objectively true?
one of my favorite moments in AF chat:
Are we going to discuss if things are objectively real, or if things are objectively true?
one of my favorite moments in AF chat:
Quote:<Ryft> "What is real" is metaphysics. "How we know" is epistemology. They are categorically different issues.
<DoubtVsFaith> Ok, well, do you believe reality exists separate to our subjective experience?
<Ryft> Do I believe things are objectively real? Yes.
<DoubtVsFaith> So if no one is experiencing a rock, say, it doesn't stop existing, right?
<Ryft> Correct.
<DoubtVsFaith> So why do you believe that things still exist when they are not experienced?
<Ryft> Because I have a metaphysics that defines reality in that way.
<thesummerqueen> [bland tone] Just because a woman hasn't experienced an orgasm doesn't mean it doesn't exist.