(December 20, 2011 at 12:33 pm)amkerman Wrote: I am not saying everyone believes or even should believe that the universe still exists if nothing is observing it, just that if you believe it does, it must stem from a belief in something that could be described as "God".
Then, how would you explain people who believe that the universe is there no matter who is looking who do not believe in god? Why on Earth would god have to come into play on this? I can believe that the universe is made up of tiny particles that spread out at the time of the Big Bang (oversimplification) and still be rather certain it is there regardless of anyone knowing it is there. In other words, the tree makes a noise when it falls no matter what.
Quote:think shrodingers cat.
Schrodinger's cat really has nothing to do with it. In the Schrodinger's cat experiment, we know the cat exists, we know that it could be either alive or dead. It has nothing to do with assuming a higher power if you think of the cat as alive.
Quote:BECAUSE I assume that most people believe that the universe exists even after we die even if one defines themselves as atheist, I have come to the opinion that even most atheists share a belief in "God", although they certaintly not describe or label that belief "God".
Bah. You are talking about a creator, an all-powerful deity, correct? I define myself as an atheist, therefore, I am an atheist. You do not have the power to define me based on shoddy thought processes. You have given absolutely no reason why one would have to think A. if they think B. You have just found a few different ways to state your assertion. Try step-by-stepping it.
