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Argument against atheism
RE: Argument against atheism
(December 20, 2011 at 11:40 am)amkerman Wrote: My revisions, after many peopple have sucessfully acknowledged the many gaps in my original argument.

If one believes in objective reality then one believes in something that would correctly be termed "God".

(definitions I have are from dictionary.com)

Belief is defined as confidence in the truth or existence of something not immediately susceptible to rigorous proof

Objectivity is defined aas that which is not influenced by personal feelings, interpretations, or predjudice; it is based on facts; it is unbiased

Reality is defined as something that exists independently of the ideas which concern it.

A belief that things are objectively "real" then necessitates that one is confident in the truth or existence of reality which is not immediately susceptible to rigorous proof. That belief is not influenced by personal feelings or interpretations, but exists independently of the ideas which concern it.

All human observation is based on conscious thought.
- Concsiousness is defined as the awareness of one's own existence and being, sensation, thought, surroundings, etc
- There is no empirical evidence to suggest any of our conscious observations exist outside the scope of our own consciousness (Can not prove)
- All emprirical evidence is based on what humans have seen, heard, smelled, tasted, or touched
- These senses are constructs of a conscious mind

A belief that anything is objectively real, therefore, necessitates a belief that consciousness is real
- consciousness is the only tool humans have to observe the universe and draw conclusions and inference about that universe from

If one believes in things are objectively real consciousness must be believed to exist independently of the ideas which concern it.
- if consciousness does not exist independently of the ideas which concern it, then one can not logically have confidence in any of the observations humanity has made about the universe.
- One cannot be confident of the truth or existence of something which is not influenced by personal feelings which exists independently of the ideas which concern it if one cannot be confident in the truth or existence of their own existence, being, sensations, thoughts, surroundings, etc.

If one believes that consciousness is objectively real then by definition one believes consciousness exists independently of ones ideas which concern it.

In human experience and scientific achievement, things that are accepted as objectively true outside the realm of human consciousness and observation humanity has termed "forces of nature", "univeral laws", or "functions of the universe" (possibly baseless claim, still trying to refine this mess)
- laws of physics are believed to exist outside of consciousness
- motion
- thermodynamics
- etc

If consciousness is believed to be objectlvely real, it would correctly be termed a function of the universe

Functions of the universe are believed to bind all matter within the universe
- they pervade everything, nothing has been observed in the universe which is not bound by the universes own laws

Functions of the universe are normally described as singular and constant tinges, rather than multifarious or malleable
- atoms, molecules, humans, plants, animals, stars, planets, galaxies, time, and space are not thought to be able to escape the forces of the universe which act upon them; everything is believed to be inextricably bound by the laws of the universe, including th universe itself
- the forces and laws of the universe created the universe (not sure whether this statement needs validation)

God is defined as the sole supreme beinng, eternal and transcendent, who is the creator and ruler of all and is infinite in all attributes

... therefore: if one believes in objective reality, one must have confidence that consciousness not influenced by personal feelings or interpretations exists independently of the ideas which concern it even though consciousness is not immediately susceptible to rigorous proof. If one believes in consciousness then one must believe consciousness is a function of the universe acting on everything within the universe and the universe itself. That belief would correctly be called a belief in "God", a being which is eternal and transcendent, creator and ruler of all and infinite in all attributes.

Yes? No? Word Salad? (i found myself annoyingly repetitious while writing this)

There was some discussion of how I equate truth and reality and knowledge a few pages back; without actually going into any depth I will just state that they are the same thing. You can't have knowledge of something that doesn't exist, and things that don't exist can't be true. The only things which one may have knowledge of are things that actually exist. If things actually exist they are real. If things are real they are inherently true. The terms, in my limited opinion, are merely different iterations of what it means to exist.
So ultimately, It requires "faith in God" to believe in objective reality. Again, for anyone who may be new, I am not claiming that objective reality or God exist, just arguing that the belief in the former required what could be defined as a belief in the latter. I am making not claims as to what "God's" properties are or would be should "God" exist.

I would say this describes pantheism better than it describes theism. It is one thing to believe that God exists as a 'synonym' for everything - the unity which we all share based upon origin and existence - also that which is overreaching throughout the whole universe (laws of physics, nature, etc.).

"Functions of the universe are believed to bind all matter within the universe
- they pervade everything, nothing has been observed in the universe which is not bound by the universes own laws

Functions of the universe are normally described as singular and constant tinges, rather than multifarious or malleable
- atoms, molecules, humans, plants, animals, stars, planets, galaxies, time, and space are not thought to be able to escape the forces of the universe which act upon them; everything is believed to be inextricably bound by the laws of the universe, including th universe itself
- the forces and laws of the universe created the universe (not sure whether this statement needs validation)"

It is a completely other thing to deduce from this that God is a person or creator (deism) and even further yet - to become theist - that God cares about individuals and their fate.

"God is defined as the sole supreme beinng, eternal and transcendent, who is the creator and ruler of all and is infinite in all attributes"
(December 20, 2011 at 12:53 pm)Darwinning Wrote:
(December 20, 2011 at 11:40 am)amkerman Wrote: In human experience and scientific achievement, things that are accepted as objectively true outside the realm of human consciousness and observation humanity has termed "forces of nature", "univeral laws", or "functions of the universe" (possibly baseless claim, still trying to refine this mess)
- laws of physics are believed to exist outside of consciousness
- motion
- thermodynamics
- etc

If consciousness is believed to be objectlvely real, it would correctly be termed a function of the universe

Why do you assert that anything that is objectively true must be a function of the universe?

Can consciousness not be an emergent property?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergence

"emergence is the way complex systems and patterns arise out of a multiplicity of relatively simple interactions."

I'm not sure how his argument would falter even if it was an emergent property. It would only be emergent from the functions of the universe which can only be explained (or even observed) from consciousness.

"... therefore: if one believes in objective reality, one must have confidence that consciousness not influenced by personal feelings or interpretations exists independently of the ideas which concern it even though consciousness is not immediately susceptible to rigorous proof. If one believes in consciousness then one must believe consciousness is a function of the universe acting on everything within the universe and the universe itself. That belief would correctly be called a belief in "God", a being which is eternal and transcendent, creator and ruler of all and infinite in all attributes."

Even if consciousness is emergent, it still acts on everything within the universe and the universe itself. It is the only thing which, essentially, 'allows' the universe to exist. For what is existence if there is nothing to observe it being in existence?


Brevity is the soul of wit.
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Argument against atheism - by amkerman - December 18, 2011 at 3:08 pm
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RE: Argument against atheism - by Darwinning - December 20, 2011 at 6:47 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by The Grand Nudger - December 20, 2011 at 9:57 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by amkerman - December 20, 2011 at 11:40 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by Darwinning - December 20, 2011 at 12:53 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Darwinning - December 20, 2011 at 1:05 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Perhaps - December 20, 2011 at 2:29 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Darwinning - December 20, 2011 at 5:36 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Perhaps - December 20, 2011 at 5:52 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Darwinning - December 20, 2011 at 6:42 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Perhaps - December 20, 2011 at 7:16 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Epimethean - December 20, 2011 at 12:22 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by amkerman - December 20, 2011 at 12:23 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Shell B - December 20, 2011 at 12:27 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Epimethean - December 20, 2011 at 12:28 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by amkerman - December 20, 2011 at 12:33 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Shell B - December 20, 2011 at 1:01 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by amkerman - December 20, 2011 at 1:53 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Darwinning - December 20, 2011 at 2:06 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Darwinning - December 20, 2011 at 2:26 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Epimethean - December 20, 2011 at 2:09 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by amkerman - December 20, 2011 at 3:04 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Darwinning - December 20, 2011 at 5:56 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Perhaps - December 20, 2011 at 3:30 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Epimethean - December 20, 2011 at 3:39 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Perhaps - December 20, 2011 at 4:10 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by The Grand Nudger - December 20, 2011 at 3:41 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Epimethean - December 20, 2011 at 4:49 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Perhaps - December 20, 2011 at 5:20 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Epimethean - December 20, 2011 at 5:26 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Perhaps - December 20, 2011 at 5:31 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Darwinning - December 20, 2011 at 6:04 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Norfolk And Chance - December 20, 2011 at 7:20 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by amkerman - December 20, 2011 at 5:44 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Epimethean - December 20, 2011 at 5:46 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Epimethean - December 20, 2011 at 5:58 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Perhaps - December 20, 2011 at 6:55 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by amkerman - December 20, 2011 at 6:09 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Darwinning - December 20, 2011 at 7:05 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Darwinning - December 20, 2011 at 6:10 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by The Grand Nudger - December 20, 2011 at 6:34 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Mister Agenda - December 20, 2011 at 6:35 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by amkerman - December 20, 2011 at 6:47 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Darwinning - December 20, 2011 at 7:18 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by The Grand Nudger - December 20, 2011 at 7:02 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Perhaps - December 20, 2011 at 7:20 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Norfolk And Chance - December 20, 2011 at 7:30 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by amkerman - December 20, 2011 at 7:19 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Darwinning - December 20, 2011 at 7:21 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Perhaps - December 20, 2011 at 7:30 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by MilesTailsPrower - December 20, 2011 at 7:34 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Minimalist - December 20, 2011 at 7:45 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by amkerman - December 20, 2011 at 8:17 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Norfolk And Chance - December 20, 2011 at 8:26 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by houseofcantor - December 21, 2011 at 3:18 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by Norfolk And Chance - December 21, 2011 at 8:35 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by The Grand Nudger - December 20, 2011 at 8:29 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Minimalist - December 20, 2011 at 9:36 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Epimethean - December 21, 2011 at 12:57 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by downbeatplumb - December 21, 2011 at 6:30 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by KichigaiNeko - December 21, 2011 at 6:32 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by downbeatplumb - December 21, 2011 at 6:34 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by KichigaiNeko - December 21, 2011 at 6:35 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by Zen Badger - December 21, 2011 at 7:18 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by KichigaiNeko - December 21, 2011 at 7:22 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by downbeatplumb - December 21, 2011 at 12:44 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by houseofcantor - December 21, 2011 at 6:56 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by KichigaiNeko - December 21, 2011 at 7:14 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by amkerman - December 21, 2011 at 12:15 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Darwinning - December 21, 2011 at 12:27 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Norfolk And Chance - December 21, 2011 at 4:07 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by houseofcantor - December 21, 2011 at 10:15 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Darwinning - December 22, 2011 at 4:43 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by Whateverist - December 22, 2011 at 10:16 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by Epimethean - December 21, 2011 at 12:32 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Darwinning - December 21, 2011 at 12:38 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by amkerman - December 21, 2011 at 12:40 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Darwinning - December 21, 2011 at 12:50 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by amkerman - December 21, 2011 at 12:45 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by downbeatplumb - December 21, 2011 at 12:48 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Rhizomorph13 - December 21, 2011 at 12:47 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by amkerman - December 21, 2011 at 12:47 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by downbeatplumb - December 21, 2011 at 12:52 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by amkerman - December 21, 2011 at 12:52 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by downbeatplumb - December 21, 2011 at 1:10 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Epimethean - December 21, 2011 at 1:05 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by amkerman - December 21, 2011 at 1:09 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by amkerman - December 21, 2011 at 1:22 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by downbeatplumb - December 21, 2011 at 1:56 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by The Grand Nudger - December 21, 2011 at 1:30 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Epimethean - December 21, 2011 at 1:33 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by amkerman - December 21, 2011 at 2:54 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by The Grand Nudger - December 21, 2011 at 3:00 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Rhizomorph13 - December 21, 2011 at 3:31 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Darwinning - December 21, 2011 at 3:33 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Epimethean - December 21, 2011 at 5:14 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Epimethean - December 21, 2011 at 11:34 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by houseofcantor - December 24, 2011 at 1:21 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by Whateverist - December 21, 2011 at 11:58 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Epimethean - December 22, 2011 at 12:03 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by Perhaps - December 22, 2011 at 12:24 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by Norfolk And Chance - December 22, 2011 at 5:26 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by Whateverist - December 22, 2011 at 10:32 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by Perhaps - December 22, 2011 at 12:13 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Whateverist - December 22, 2011 at 1:20 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Perhaps - December 22, 2011 at 1:53 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Darwinning - December 22, 2011 at 4:01 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Perhaps - December 22, 2011 at 4:31 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Darwinning - December 22, 2011 at 4:40 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Perhaps - December 22, 2011 at 4:47 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Darwinning - December 22, 2011 at 4:51 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Darwinning - December 23, 2011 at 5:14 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by Blam! - December 22, 2011 at 4:59 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Norfolk And Chance - December 22, 2011 at 4:21 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Perhaps - December 22, 2011 at 4:36 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Norfolk And Chance - December 22, 2011 at 5:36 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Minimalist - December 22, 2011 at 12:30 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by Perhaps - December 22, 2011 at 1:01 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by Whateverist - December 22, 2011 at 2:46 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by Perhaps - December 22, 2011 at 3:23 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by padraic - December 22, 2011 at 3:00 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by Epimethean - December 22, 2011 at 12:35 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by KichigaiNeko - December 22, 2011 at 8:32 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by The Grand Nudger - December 22, 2011 at 9:43 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by Darwinning - December 22, 2011 at 10:15 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by Epimethean - December 22, 2011 at 10:02 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by The Grand Nudger - December 22, 2011 at 10:21 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by The Grand Nudger - December 22, 2011 at 12:16 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Perhaps - December 22, 2011 at 12:29 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by The Grand Nudger - December 22, 2011 at 12:31 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Whateverist - December 22, 2011 at 12:39 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by The Grand Nudger - December 22, 2011 at 12:42 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Epimethean - December 22, 2011 at 12:45 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by The Grand Nudger - December 22, 2011 at 1:18 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Perhaps - December 22, 2011 at 1:35 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Whateverist - December 22, 2011 at 2:13 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by amkerman - December 22, 2011 at 1:37 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Blam! - December 22, 2011 at 2:11 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by downbeatplumb - December 22, 2011 at 2:18 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by The Grand Nudger - December 22, 2011 at 1:44 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Epimethean - December 22, 2011 at 1:45 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Minimalist - December 22, 2011 at 1:48 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Shell B - December 22, 2011 at 1:48 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by The Grand Nudger - December 22, 2011 at 2:20 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by amkerman - December 22, 2011 at 2:24 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Blam! - December 22, 2011 at 2:59 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by downbeatplumb - December 22, 2011 at 3:08 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by The Grand Nudger - December 22, 2011 at 2:34 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Perhaps - December 22, 2011 at 2:37 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by downbeatplumb - December 22, 2011 at 2:41 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by amkerman - December 22, 2011 at 2:43 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by downbeatplumb - December 22, 2011 at 2:49 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Whateverist - December 22, 2011 at 2:46 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Epimethean - December 22, 2011 at 2:55 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by The Grand Nudger - December 22, 2011 at 3:05 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Epimethean - December 22, 2011 at 3:12 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by downbeatplumb - December 22, 2011 at 3:15 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by The Grand Nudger - December 22, 2011 at 3:13 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by amkerman - December 22, 2011 at 3:27 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by The Grand Nudger - December 22, 2011 at 3:28 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by amkerman - December 22, 2011 at 3:34 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by downbeatplumb - December 22, 2011 at 3:38 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by The Grand Nudger - December 22, 2011 at 3:35 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by amkerman - December 22, 2011 at 3:37 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Epimethean - December 22, 2011 at 3:39 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by The Grand Nudger - December 22, 2011 at 3:39 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Perhaps - December 22, 2011 at 3:41 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Blam! - December 22, 2011 at 4:02 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Epimethean - December 22, 2011 at 3:46 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Perhaps - December 22, 2011 at 3:48 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Epimethean - December 22, 2011 at 4:33 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by The Grand Nudger - December 22, 2011 at 3:50 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by The Grand Nudger - December 22, 2011 at 4:36 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by amkerman - December 22, 2011 at 6:04 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Blam! - December 23, 2011 at 2:55 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by Perhaps - December 23, 2011 at 3:59 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by Blam! - December 23, 2011 at 7:35 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by Norfolk And Chance - December 23, 2011 at 7:40 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by frankiej - December 22, 2011 at 6:07 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Norfolk And Chance - December 22, 2011 at 6:08 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by amkerman - December 22, 2011 at 6:16 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Epimethean - December 23, 2011 at 4:03 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by KichigaiNeko - December 23, 2011 at 8:13 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by Perhaps - December 23, 2011 at 4:11 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by downbeatplumb - December 23, 2011 at 8:15 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by Blam! - December 23, 2011 at 8:56 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by KichigaiNeko - December 23, 2011 at 8:58 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by Perhaps - December 23, 2011 at 4:25 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by downbeatplumb - December 23, 2011 at 4:28 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Epimethean - December 23, 2011 at 8:46 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by Norfolk And Chance - December 23, 2011 at 10:08 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by Epimethean - December 23, 2011 at 11:43 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by znk666 - December 23, 2011 at 12:22 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by The Grand Nudger - December 23, 2011 at 4:31 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Perhaps - December 23, 2011 at 4:41 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by The Grand Nudger - December 23, 2011 at 4:43 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Perhaps - December 23, 2011 at 4:51 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Norfolk And Chance - December 24, 2011 at 7:59 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by houseofcantor - December 24, 2011 at 11:50 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by Perhaps - December 23, 2011 at 5:05 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by The Grand Nudger - December 23, 2011 at 5:00 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by The Grand Nudger - December 23, 2011 at 5:09 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Perhaps - December 23, 2011 at 5:21 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Epimethean - December 23, 2011 at 5:10 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by The Grand Nudger - December 23, 2011 at 5:23 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Perhaps - December 23, 2011 at 5:32 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by The Grand Nudger - December 23, 2011 at 5:38 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Perhaps - December 23, 2011 at 5:46 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by The Grand Nudger - December 23, 2011 at 5:55 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Perhaps - December 23, 2011 at 6:01 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by The Grand Nudger - December 23, 2011 at 6:13 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Perhaps - December 23, 2011 at 6:29 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Blam! - December 23, 2011 at 6:56 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Perhaps - December 23, 2011 at 7:10 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by The Grand Nudger - December 23, 2011 at 6:42 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Perhaps - December 23, 2011 at 6:59 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by The Grand Nudger - December 23, 2011 at 7:08 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Perhaps - December 23, 2011 at 7:20 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by The Grand Nudger - December 23, 2011 at 7:13 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by 5thHorseman - December 23, 2011 at 7:18 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by The Grand Nudger - December 23, 2011 at 7:27 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Perhaps - December 23, 2011 at 7:31 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by The Grand Nudger - December 23, 2011 at 7:33 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Perhaps - December 23, 2011 at 7:59 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by amkerman - December 23, 2011 at 8:37 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by The Grand Nudger - December 23, 2011 at 8:38 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Perhaps - December 23, 2011 at 9:12 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by amkerman - December 23, 2011 at 8:45 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by The Grand Nudger - December 23, 2011 at 9:19 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Perhaps - December 23, 2011 at 9:27 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Jaysyn - December 23, 2011 at 10:04 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Perhaps - December 23, 2011 at 10:16 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by amkerman - December 23, 2011 at 9:29 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by The Grand Nudger - December 23, 2011 at 9:44 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Perhaps - December 23, 2011 at 9:53 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by amkerman - December 23, 2011 at 10:00 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by The Grand Nudger - December 23, 2011 at 10:03 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Perhaps - December 23, 2011 at 10:10 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by The Grand Nudger - December 23, 2011 at 10:12 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Perhaps - December 23, 2011 at 10:20 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Blam! - December 24, 2011 at 8:09 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by amkerman - December 23, 2011 at 10:15 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by amkerman - December 23, 2011 at 10:17 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Norfolk And Chance - December 24, 2011 at 8:09 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by The Grand Nudger - December 23, 2011 at 10:23 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Perhaps - December 23, 2011 at 10:44 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by amkerman - December 23, 2011 at 10:40 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by The Grand Nudger - December 23, 2011 at 10:52 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Perhaps - December 24, 2011 at 12:46 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by amkerman - December 23, 2011 at 11:05 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by The Grand Nudger - December 24, 2011 at 1:06 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by Perhaps - December 24, 2011 at 3:03 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by amkerman - December 24, 2011 at 2:13 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by houseofcantor - December 24, 2011 at 2:22 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by amkerman - December 24, 2011 at 12:34 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by downbeatplumb - December 24, 2011 at 1:47 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Epimethean - December 24, 2011 at 1:45 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by amkerman - December 24, 2011 at 2:12 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by downbeatplumb - December 24, 2011 at 2:24 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Epimethean - December 24, 2011 at 2:28 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by amkerman - December 24, 2011 at 2:30 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Epimethean - December 24, 2011 at 2:35 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by downbeatplumb - December 24, 2011 at 2:31 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by amkerman - December 24, 2011 at 2:51 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by downbeatplumb - December 25, 2011 at 7:51 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by Epimethean - December 24, 2011 at 2:58 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Welsh cake - December 24, 2011 at 3:07 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Perhaps - December 24, 2011 at 3:10 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Norfolk And Chance - December 26, 2011 at 7:11 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by Epimethean - December 24, 2011 at 3:11 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Perhaps - December 24, 2011 at 3:18 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Blam! - December 24, 2011 at 4:26 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by houseofcantor - December 24, 2011 at 4:33 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Epimethean - December 24, 2011 at 4:48 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Epimethean - December 24, 2011 at 3:20 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Perhaps - December 24, 2011 at 3:25 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Epimethean - December 24, 2011 at 3:29 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Perhaps - December 24, 2011 at 3:33 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by The Grand Nudger - December 24, 2011 at 4:35 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Perhaps - December 24, 2011 at 10:41 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by houseofcantor - December 24, 2011 at 5:11 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Epimethean - December 24, 2011 at 5:29 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by amkerman - December 24, 2011 at 5:54 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Welsh cake - December 24, 2011 at 7:23 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Perhaps - December 24, 2011 at 9:38 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by amkerman - December 24, 2011 at 11:54 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Epimethean - December 25, 2011 at 1:13 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by amkerman - December 25, 2011 at 9:49 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by downbeatplumb - December 25, 2011 at 3:25 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Epimethean - December 25, 2011 at 9:51 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by Welsh cake - December 25, 2011 at 11:09 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by Perhaps - December 25, 2011 at 11:58 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by amkerman - December 25, 2011 at 5:48 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Blam! - December 25, 2011 at 6:16 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Epimethean - December 25, 2011 at 5:55 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by amkerman - December 25, 2011 at 6:18 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by The Grand Nudger - December 25, 2011 at 6:19 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Perhaps - December 26, 2011 at 1:33 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by Epimethean - December 25, 2011 at 6:45 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by amkerman - December 25, 2011 at 7:26 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by amkerman - December 25, 2011 at 8:27 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by houseofcantor - December 25, 2011 at 9:39 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by amkerman - December 25, 2011 at 9:55 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by houseofcantor - December 26, 2011 at 12:01 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by amkerman - December 26, 2011 at 12:26 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by houseofcantor - December 26, 2011 at 2:19 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by Welsh cake - December 26, 2011 at 11:50 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by amkerman - December 26, 2011 at 12:27 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Epimethean - December 26, 2011 at 12:39 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by amkerman - December 26, 2011 at 12:41 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Norfolk And Chance - December 26, 2011 at 1:38 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by amkerman - December 26, 2011 at 1:47 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Norfolk And Chance - December 26, 2011 at 4:04 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Rhizomorph13 - January 13, 2012 at 6:05 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Norfolk And Chance - January 14, 2012 at 9:22 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by Cosmic Ape - January 13, 2012 at 9:21 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by The Grand Nudger - January 13, 2012 at 9:26 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by Doubting Thomas - January 13, 2012 at 11:27 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by JollyForr - January 13, 2012 at 6:07 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by reverendjeremiah - January 13, 2012 at 6:25 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by 5thHorseman - January 13, 2012 at 6:07 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Doubting Thomas - January 13, 2012 at 6:59 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Jackalope - January 13, 2012 at 8:24 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by JollyForr - January 14, 2012 at 9:27 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by thesummerqueen - January 14, 2012 at 9:29 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by The Grand Nudger - January 14, 2012 at 10:09 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by Epimethean - January 14, 2012 at 11:06 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by The Grand Nudger - January 14, 2012 at 11:14 am
RE: Argument against atheism - by factotum - January 23, 2012 at 4:43 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Epimethean - January 23, 2012 at 8:36 pm
RE: Argument against atheism - by Reforged - February 16, 2012 at 11:42 am



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