RE: Argument against atheism
December 20, 2011 at 8:17 pm
(This post was last modified: December 20, 2011 at 8:25 pm by amkerman.)
Norfolk: I doubt you can prove you exist. I have never seen anyone prove anything exists. Just saying.
Perhaps: I see what you are saying, it's similar to what I am saying. A lot of people seem to believe it's garbage.
If reality can only be observed through a mechanism we know as consciousness, then it seems to me that consciousness must be inherent to the universe in order for reality to be accurately observed or perceived.
Now, reality might actually exist regardless of consciousness, but that reality would not be based upon our conscious perceptions. there is no likelihood that realty would look even remotely close to the reality we perceive. Think the Matrix, but even the physical properties and fundamental forces of the universe are up for grabs if that is the case. It just seems illogical to believe this to be true, because there is no evidence to support it, because again, all observation is based on consciousness perceptions.
Perhaps: If you are able to make the claim the God exists, then consciously you must have somehow been able to perceive God, unless there is someway to perceive things outside of our own consciousnesses. I would suggest that if you perceive God it is most like through "feeling" or "senseing" or awareness.
How do you percieve love? you can not touch or smell or taste or see love or hear it, yet people know it when they feel it. It is not readily definable. It is not suceptable to rigorous proof. But the feeling's are real... unless of course they're not.
Perhaps: I see what you are saying, it's similar to what I am saying. A lot of people seem to believe it's garbage.
If reality can only be observed through a mechanism we know as consciousness, then it seems to me that consciousness must be inherent to the universe in order for reality to be accurately observed or perceived.
Now, reality might actually exist regardless of consciousness, but that reality would not be based upon our conscious perceptions. there is no likelihood that realty would look even remotely close to the reality we perceive. Think the Matrix, but even the physical properties and fundamental forces of the universe are up for grabs if that is the case. It just seems illogical to believe this to be true, because there is no evidence to support it, because again, all observation is based on consciousness perceptions.
Perhaps: If you are able to make the claim the God exists, then consciously you must have somehow been able to perceive God, unless there is someway to perceive things outside of our own consciousnesses. I would suggest that if you perceive God it is most like through "feeling" or "senseing" or awareness.
How do you percieve love? you can not touch or smell or taste or see love or hear it, yet people know it when they feel it. It is not readily definable. It is not suceptable to rigorous proof. But the feeling's are real... unless of course they're not.
