Atheist Evangelism

[GrandizerII]

If a talented person invests their time becoming a preacher or apologist rather than scientist or poet because of the influence of universalist xtianity, that's a harm.

They can do both preacher/apologist and scientist/poet, if they're talented and intelligent enough. Plenty of Christians do. And there are just too many factors to consider that may have influenced one to become solely a preacher/apologist. Maybe if it weren't for religion, they would've just wrote some novels instead.

And sure, you don't see value in one being a preacher/apologist/theologian, but that's subjective. Some people don't see value in being a poet either.

If someone gives money to the church rather than a better cause, that's a harm.

For a lot of churchgoers, church is a big positive for them. And as long as they're not being pressured to donate money, I don't care whether (at the core) it ends up being a philosophical harm for the whole world. We all do things that may end up being a philosophical harm ultimately for the world, but we do them anyway because it benefits us and the people we care about and/or we feel good about doing so. And we should continue to have that right to do what we feel is best.

If fundamentalist xtians draw upon apologetic arguments created by universalists, that's a harm.

If extreme atheists draw upon arguments often raised by atheists against God to justify genocide or some other morally equivalent act, that's a harm also. That doesn't mean atheism itself is bad.

Atheists can suck, but atheism is neutral.  Religion is always false and immoral and harmful in some way.  That's the difference.  The world would be better off without religion.

You keep saying religion is always false and immoral and harmful, but that just comes off as begging the question in favor of your position. It's fallacious. And you also appear to subconsciously keep shifting between "religion in principle is bad" and "particular religions are bad". Which are you intending to argue exactly? Former or latter?

But let's compromise on one idea: the world would be better off with no religion except universalist progressive xtianity.  Fair?

Nope, still skeptical.