Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: October 12, 2025, 12:00 am

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
A thing about religious (and other) people and the illusion of free will
RE: A thing about religious (and other) people and the illusion of free will
(November 12, 2023 at 2:09 pm)snowtracks Wrote: God much rather have spiritual beings with free will with evil, than beings with no free will and no evil.

His presence is sufficiently revealed so people will know he’s there but sufficiently hidden so that those who wish to ignore him can do so. This way, their choice of destiny* is really a free-will decision. Everyone is currently deciding their choice.
-----------------------------
*Either eternal connection with God, or eternal separation.

All well and good, the morality-making property in your view is explicitly the possession of free will.  I guess that really does mean that your entire moral system is bunk if we don't possess it.  A self inflicted wound. I would have expected christians to learn their lesson about tying anchors to their beliefs over these many centuries - but here we are.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!



Messages In This Thread
RE: A thing about religious (and other) people and the illusion of free will - by The Grand Nudger - November 12, 2023 at 2:28 pm

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Stupid things religious people say Paraselene 2357 325816 4 hours ago
Last Post: The Grand Nudger
  What is a theist other then the basic definition? Quill01 4 1446 August 1, 2022 at 11:16 am
Last Post: onlinebiker
  Why people remain in cultlike religious communities Won2blv 6 1793 April 1, 2022 at 7:59 pm
Last Post: Rev. Rye
  Isn’t pantheism the same thing as atheism? Ferrocyanide 177 25879 January 1, 2022 at 2:36 am
Last Post: Ferrocyanide
  forbidding people to love each other Fake Messiah 210 41357 September 16, 2021 at 1:23 am
Last Post: Fake Messiah
  One cool thing about Christianity and Islam Edge92 55 8281 June 4, 2021 at 9:31 pm
Last Post: Angrboda
  Flat Earther, and other conspiracy theories. Are they mostly atheists? Ferrocyanide 95 16831 April 26, 2021 at 3:56 am
Last Post: Tomatoshadow2
  "Thou shalt have no other gods before Me" ignoramus 121 31844 March 5, 2021 at 6:42 am
Last Post: awty
  Religious people in the medical field Paraselene 35 11739 November 11, 2018 at 10:54 am
Last Post: Angrboda
  Are religious people really afraid of death? Alexmahone 36 9299 July 3, 2018 at 12:50 pm
Last Post: purplepurpose



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)