(December 2, 2023 at 9:23 pm)SimpleCaveman Wrote: Hi Boru,
Interesting thing here. When I replied to your post, intending to quote it, it didn’t keep the portion from your previous post. I had to go back to the original post you made. Surprising. I wonder why. Maybe so we don’t have Inception moments.
Before, you had said,
(November 29, 2023 at 7:51 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: But if our values come from Christian history (they don’t, but I’ll play along), then it absolutely doesn’t matter if God exists, from a moral/ethical standpoint.
Then I was all like,
(December 2, 2023 at 2:35 pm)SimpleCaveman Wrote: I am contending that it is our Christian history that gives us our values. And, obviously to my thinking, we have that history because God exists.
<I continued with an argument about why it would still matter, from a moral/ethical standpoint, whether God existed or not.>
And you responded with,
(December 2, 2023 at 2:58 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Of course you’d have Christian history if God didn’t exist - that’s blatantly obvious. The history of a religion - any religion - isn’t dependent on whether the god(s) of that religion exist. Simply because we have Aztec history is no reason to believe that Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli exists.
You’ve take a very silly, very indefensible position.
I was very surprised. It did not appear that you got past that sentence.
(December 2, 2023 at 3:55 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Still waiting for SC to explain why Christian history proves the existence of the Christian god (my hopes are not high).And then you said this. And now I’m sure you didn’t read or grok the rest of the post. This isn’t what you asked or what (the majority of) my post was about.
Maybe you did read it all and still focused on this point. That’s fine. And, obviously, you can respond or not respond to whatever you want in the posts. No issues there. As Chuck Berry said, “This is a free country, live like you wanna live, baby!”
I’m just saying I took you as someone who rises above the usual level of <ahem> discussion.
Pax et bonum
I read your entire post and, quite frankly, it didn’t seem necessary to reply further, as it all hinges on the bit to which I responded. Until and unless you can demonstrate that the history of the Christian faith makes it obvious that God exists, the rest of your argument is just so much white noise.
Boru
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