Blam: I hope you can realize for yourself that your statement was false based upon the reference you provided.
Interesting, thank you for your answer. We meant the same thing about evolution (being and happens).
I suppose my thought process is inclining me to think in terms of biological evolution. The perfection of senses and consciousness would then mean both omniscience and omnipotence. To end evolution there would also have to be no more conflict - meaning that only one being exists. The one I couldn't think of yet is omnipresent but I think it would stem from only one being existing.
But as you can see from my thought process, the end of evolution would essentially mean a 'God' like being. Then from this God like being there could stem new life as that being creates it using omnipotence. Essentially going until that creation becomes God like as well, but here is the flaw of my logic (one of many I'm sure). Evolution wouldn't allow for two 'perfect' beings, at least not as we understand it. One is always better because no two things are exactly the same. Thus, this is where I'm stuck in my thoughts.
Once again, I understand that I'm applying teleology to something which could possibly never have an end. I also understand that I am making a lot of assumptions (some of which may be flawed logic). This is why I would like criticism and lots of it.
(December 22, 2011 at 4:01 pm)Darwinning Wrote:(December 22, 2011 at 12:13 pm)Perhaps Wrote: Assuming evolution is true, is there an end goal to evolution? Does it conceivably have a purpose or reason? If the answer is no then does that simply mean that evolution is and that the process of natural selection will never end even as 'perfection' is reached?
Evolution is a process that emerges from a set of simple rules (children take after their parent, but they are not the same, those differences can influence survival, those that survive better have more children, goto step 1). I do not see room for a purpose.
I do not know exactly what you mean by "evolution is", but I think evolution happens. It is not a thing, it emerges from rules on a lower plane.
Evolution will not stop on it's own accord (there is no perfection, circumstances change), but if one of the rules no longer applies the evolutionary process will come to a halt. This could be because there is no more life, no more mutation, no more death or no more children; take your pick.
Interesting, thank you for your answer. We meant the same thing about evolution (being and happens).
I suppose my thought process is inclining me to think in terms of biological evolution. The perfection of senses and consciousness would then mean both omniscience and omnipotence. To end evolution there would also have to be no more conflict - meaning that only one being exists. The one I couldn't think of yet is omnipresent but I think it would stem from only one being existing.
But as you can see from my thought process, the end of evolution would essentially mean a 'God' like being. Then from this God like being there could stem new life as that being creates it using omnipotence. Essentially going until that creation becomes God like as well, but here is the flaw of my logic (one of many I'm sure). Evolution wouldn't allow for two 'perfect' beings, at least not as we understand it. One is always better because no two things are exactly the same. Thus, this is where I'm stuck in my thoughts.
Once again, I understand that I'm applying teleology to something which could possibly never have an end. I also understand that I am making a lot of assumptions (some of which may be flawed logic). This is why I would like criticism and lots of it.
Brevity is the soul of wit.
