RE: Argument against atheism
December 22, 2011 at 4:47 pm
(This post was last modified: December 22, 2011 at 4:49 pm by Perhaps.)
(December 22, 2011 at 4:40 pm)Darwinning Wrote: I think you need to study evolution some more. Evolution does not 'perfect senses'. Evolution does only what I described: favor things that procreate. It has no 'objective' sense of what is 'better'.
One being in existence would be one way to end evolution, yes. There would be no conflict, but more importantly, no procreation.
Interesting, and you're quite right that I have a lot to read about yet and understand in regards to evolution. I think my assumption was just based on the idea that in order to survive one must be better than the other which it will kill to further sustain life. Thus evolution brings about 'better' things. But the idea of procreation is one which I should address further as well.
Thanks for the thoughts.
(December 22, 2011 at 4:36 pm)Rhythm Wrote: "The perfection of senses and consciousness would then mean both omniscience and omnipotence."
Or perhaps in the end, survival favors complete ignorance and inability, selecting speed and fool-proofing of reproduction over all else (quite a few very successful organisms that fit this category). Our ideas of what perfection is or would mean hold no power over evolution. There are many more successful "dumb" creatures than smart ones. And a great many of the forms of life on this planet have no "power" whatsoever, let alone anything approaching "all-power" (which obviously nothing has). Just something to chew on. That anthropic bias I'm always talking about is pervasive....There was once the idea of evolution as a steady path of simple life becoming closer and closer to the "goal" of life which resembled, surprise..western scholars.
Hmm, that throws a wrench in the thought in the first place. Something I'll definitely have to think about further. Subjectivity as to what is 'good' or 'better' or 'perfect' I think is going to be my downfall in the thought overall.
(December 22, 2011 at 4:33 pm)Epimethean Wrote: 'But as you can see from my thought process, the end of evolution would essentially mean a 'God' like being. Then from this God like being there could stem new life as that being creates it using omnipotence. Essentially going until that creation becomes God like as well, but here is the flaw of my logic (one of many I'm sure). Evolution wouldn't allow for two 'perfect' beings, at least not as we understand it.'
Your thoughts on divine evolution are evolving into divine comedy.
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