(December 23, 2011 at 5:38 pm)Rhythm Wrote: But reason may not be, and If I encounter a situation that makes this plainly clear I'll have to put some serious legwork into it.
Just look up some illogical-axioms in mathematics to demonstrate to yourself that reason does not determine truth.
(December 23, 2011 at 5:38 pm)Rhythm Wrote: No axiom required, and I do not subscribe to such an axiom in the first place. It is again a falsifiable statement. We need only find a false positive that reason would strongly suggest.
You're using the axiom right now, by saying those words, and assuming them true.
(December 23, 2011 at 5:38 pm)Rhythm Wrote: We've done so in the past btw, that's how the system was developed in the first place, trial and error. Obviously we trashed those lines of "reasoning" that we found were not valid, nonethel;ess, what remains merely remains under the header because it is a convenient title. To assume that "reason" is a complete system is to assume complete knowledge. I have no such illusions, obviously.
We trashed those lines of 'reasoning' by assuming that reasoning determined truth (using the axiom). But I do agree with you whole heartily on the last two sentences.
Brevity is the soul of wit.