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Libertarian left and right
RE: Libertarian left and right
(December 26, 2011 at 6:00 am)5thHorseman Wrote: Mehmet, are you finally announcing that you are a muslim?

Your first answer appears to insinuate this.
My view on woman's rights is not certainly associated with any religion, although I do not deny that I base many things on traditional settings.
I do not advocate a society without limits.
And such a society certainly does not exist amongst any Turkish nations on earth, on the contrary, we have been sticking to the same values ever since, independent on whatever creed or religion we have adopted.
My ideology comes before any other religious values I have. It does not matter if I'm a christian, muslim or pagan.
I will still adhere to the same ideals, that are shared by my collegues who profess belief in other gods aswell.
And really, what constitutes "woman's rights" for you, truly?
I see woman's rights as our ancestors viewed them.
The Khan, and the Khatun ruled the kingdom, side by side, and both men and women contributed to war efforts, with the women even riding into battle with men sometimes, collecting heads as they saw fit.
They owned property, sold it, and had the rights to divorce their husbands when they saw fit.
Our women were proud, and held their honour in high esteem. They saw their honor as the equals of the honor of the men, and the men saw their onor as inseperable from the women.
In fact, the honor of our men and women were sullied when they accepted more universal creeds, and accepted foreigners into their respective families.
If we stayed true to the god and creed of our ancestors, we would probably not even allowed foreigners to live in our cities, to become our neighbors, and to lustfully eye our women and men.

In short, men were in all aspects of society, ever the equals of men, and being even sometimes above men, as they were more frequently favored as shamans from Gods than men.
This is not to say anything on my religious views, as I do not feel obliged to tell you about them, and I never will.
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Libertarian left and right - by reverendjeremiah - October 12, 2011 at 10:32 am
RE: Libertarian left and right - by frankiej - October 12, 2011 at 10:40 am
RE: Libertarian left and right - by reverendjeremiah - October 12, 2011 at 10:49 am
RE: Libertarian left and right - by HeyItsZeus - December 23, 2011 at 6:39 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by frankiej - October 12, 2011 at 10:54 am
RE: Libertarian left and right - by reverendjeremiah - October 12, 2011 at 11:26 am
RE: Libertarian left and right - by frankiej - October 12, 2011 at 11:31 am
RE: Libertarian left and right - by reverendjeremiah - October 12, 2011 at 11:42 am
RE: Libertarian left and right - by 5thHorseman - October 12, 2011 at 3:40 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by reverendjeremiah - October 12, 2011 at 3:44 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by 5thHorseman - October 12, 2011 at 4:01 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by TheDarkestOfAngels - October 12, 2011 at 6:25 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by reverendjeremiah - October 12, 2011 at 7:36 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by TheDarkestOfAngels - October 12, 2011 at 8:02 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by reverendjeremiah - October 12, 2011 at 8:37 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by TheDarkestOfAngels - October 13, 2011 at 6:32 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by Ashendant - October 12, 2011 at 8:58 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by padraic - October 12, 2011 at 6:58 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by reverendjeremiah - October 12, 2011 at 9:03 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by Ashendant - October 12, 2011 at 9:06 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by Darth - October 13, 2011 at 10:06 am
RE: Libertarian left and right - by Violet - October 13, 2011 at 10:39 am
RE: Libertarian left and right - by Ashendant - October 13, 2011 at 6:01 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by Violet - October 14, 2011 at 2:31 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by Ashendant - October 15, 2011 at 4:25 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by Mister Agenda - October 13, 2011 at 11:17 am
RE: Libertarian left and right - by reverendjeremiah - October 15, 2011 at 5:04 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by Mister Agenda - October 24, 2011 at 11:56 am
RE: Libertarian left and right - by The Grand Nudger - October 13, 2011 at 6:17 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by reverendjeremiah - October 13, 2011 at 11:24 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by Mister Agenda - October 14, 2011 at 12:46 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by 5thHorseman - October 14, 2011 at 2:40 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by Jackalope - October 14, 2011 at 3:50 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by reverendjeremiah - October 14, 2011 at 5:14 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by TheDarkestOfAngels - October 29, 2011 at 10:10 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by Epimethean - October 15, 2011 at 5:10 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by reverendjeremiah - October 15, 2011 at 5:22 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by Epimethean - October 15, 2011 at 5:36 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by reverendjeremiah - October 15, 2011 at 5:47 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by Epimethean - October 15, 2011 at 5:55 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by reverendjeremiah - October 15, 2011 at 6:00 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by Epimethean - October 15, 2011 at 6:01 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by reverendjeremiah - October 15, 2011 at 7:16 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by Violet - October 16, 2011 at 6:25 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by reverendjeremiah - October 17, 2011 at 11:21 am
RE: Libertarian left and right - by The Grand Nudger - October 17, 2011 at 1:25 am
RE: Libertarian left and right - by The Grand Nudger - October 17, 2011 at 11:58 am
RE: Libertarian left and right - by Violet - October 17, 2011 at 12:35 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by reverendjeremiah - October 17, 2011 at 2:06 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by Violet - October 18, 2011 at 2:33 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by houseofcantor - December 16, 2011 at 5:52 am
RE: Libertarian left and right - by paintpooper - October 18, 2011 at 4:21 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by reverendjeremiah - October 24, 2011 at 12:10 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by reverendjeremiah - October 30, 2011 at 4:22 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by 5thHorseman - October 30, 2011 at 4:26 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by reverendjeremiah - October 30, 2011 at 4:41 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by 5thHorseman - October 30, 2011 at 4:47 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by reverendjeremiah - October 30, 2011 at 6:43 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by reverendjeremiah - December 15, 2011 at 11:45 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by paintpooper - December 16, 2011 at 2:26 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by Mister Agenda - December 16, 2011 at 3:48 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by reverendjeremiah - December 17, 2011 at 12:55 am
RE: Libertarian left and right - by The Grand Nudger - December 17, 2011 at 3:14 am
RE: Libertarian left and right - by reverendjeremiah - December 18, 2011 at 12:40 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by houseofcantor - December 21, 2011 at 9:34 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by reverendjeremiah - December 21, 2011 at 10:18 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by padraic - December 21, 2011 at 10:30 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by reverendjeremiah - December 21, 2011 at 10:56 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by kılıç_mehmet - December 22, 2011 at 5:32 am
RE: Libertarian left and right - by 5thHorseman - December 22, 2011 at 1:45 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by kılıç_mehmet - December 22, 2011 at 6:18 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by frankiej - December 22, 2011 at 6:24 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by kılıç_mehmet - December 22, 2011 at 6:37 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by 5thHorseman - December 23, 2011 at 3:24 am
RE: Libertarian left and right - by reverendjeremiah - December 22, 2011 at 4:47 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by The Grand Nudger - December 22, 2011 at 11:50 am
RE: Libertarian left and right - by paintpooper - December 22, 2011 at 1:23 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by The Grand Nudger - December 22, 2011 at 2:04 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by paintpooper - December 22, 2011 at 3:06 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by The Grand Nudger - December 22, 2011 at 3:59 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by frankiej - December 22, 2011 at 6:39 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by kılıç_mehmet - December 22, 2011 at 6:53 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by reverendjeremiah - December 23, 2011 at 12:16 am
RE: Libertarian left and right - by kılıç_mehmet - December 23, 2011 at 8:07 am
RE: Libertarian left and right - by 5thHorseman - December 23, 2011 at 4:24 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by reverendjeremiah - December 23, 2011 at 5:15 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by kılıç_mehmet - December 23, 2011 at 8:07 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by reverendjeremiah - December 23, 2011 at 6:16 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by Jackalope - December 23, 2011 at 6:26 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by 5thHorseman - December 23, 2011 at 6:35 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by reverendjeremiah - December 23, 2011 at 7:22 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by The Grand Nudger - December 23, 2011 at 9:05 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by kılıç_mehmet - December 23, 2011 at 9:14 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by The Grand Nudger - December 23, 2011 at 11:45 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by reverendjeremiah - December 24, 2011 at 12:46 am
RE: Libertarian left and right - by kılıç_mehmet - December 24, 2011 at 4:13 am
RE: Libertarian left and right - by 5thHorseman - December 24, 2011 at 4:58 am
RE: Libertarian left and right - by kılıç_mehmet - December 24, 2011 at 5:22 am
RE: Libertarian left and right - by reverendjeremiah - December 24, 2011 at 2:52 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by reverendjeremiah - December 24, 2011 at 10:53 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by kılıç_mehmet - December 25, 2011 at 5:11 am
RE: Libertarian left and right - by TheDarkestOfAngels - December 24, 2011 at 11:22 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by reverendjeremiah - December 24, 2011 at 11:48 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by TheDarkestOfAngels - December 25, 2011 at 9:07 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by kılıç_mehmet - December 26, 2011 at 3:02 am
RE: Libertarian left and right - by Tiberius - December 25, 2011 at 12:01 am
RE: Libertarian left and right - by reverendjeremiah - December 25, 2011 at 12:05 am
RE: Libertarian left and right - by reverendjeremiah - December 25, 2011 at 1:17 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by kılıç_mehmet - December 25, 2011 at 1:29 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by reverendjeremiah - December 25, 2011 at 11:32 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by 5thHorseman - December 26, 2011 at 6:00 am
RE: Libertarian left and right - by kılıç_mehmet - December 26, 2011 at 6:22 am
RE: Libertarian left and right - by 5thHorseman - December 26, 2011 at 12:37 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by kılıç_mehmet - December 26, 2011 at 1:11 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by The Grand Nudger - December 26, 2011 at 1:46 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by kılıç_mehmet - December 26, 2011 at 2:27 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by reverendjeremiah - December 26, 2011 at 4:41 pm
RE: Libertarian left and right - by kılıç_mehmet - December 26, 2011 at 5:13 pm

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