Damned Pervert Priests - and other assorted Holy Scumbags

[Questor]

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Accepting Yeshua as the Messiah makes Judaism what it was designed to be . . . a plan on its way to completion, that was designed with a specific ending in mind from the beginning. Many xtians adhere to this, but they do not divest themselves of the essential problem they accepted with the Greco-Roman concept of what the Messiah is, and the blatant changes to Messianic thought among Jews of the First Century made by those who were anxious to separate themselves from the political dangers of being proselytes to Judaism.

It is the Greco-Roman culture that xtianity is steeped in that I reject, preferring to adhere to the tenets laid down in the Scriptures, and the culture that is described there-in, and added to, if involuntarily, by my family.

Calling me an xtian is intrinsically incorrect, as I cannot adhere to anything that xtians put forth in their statements of beliefs other than that they also have acknowledged that Yeshua is the Messiah. Once having stated that, the various denominations start adding in what other beliefs inculcated in the pagan, Greco-Roman world. I begin reading them, and then sense a big tilt sign being flashed at me as they sharply digress from Torah.

Salvation is what YHWH promised us, and whomsoever will choose to follow the one named Salvation (Yeshua) may do so. But that salvation merely makes Gentiles proselytes to Judaism - God-fearers, and those that were first in acknowledging Yeshua as their Savior were in Judea, and attending the synagogues to understand and adhere to Judaism, as a culture and a religion. They ceased doing so before the First Century was completed, and the few that remained were ducking and running from the Roman Empire and from the Jews. Some stayed within a Jewish framework, but most accepted the changes inculcated by the so-called Church Fathers, who themselves rooted Judaism out of the western idea of xtianity. Indeed, they fathered an entirely different idea of how to follow Yeshua that has since spun out of control.

You seem to not realize there is a sharp dicotomy between Jews that accept Yeshua is the Messsiah, and live as Jews, and those Gentiles who accept the Greco-Roman idea of Yeshua as their Savior, and live as pagans. Calling me a xtian is pretty much the same as calling me a pagan, and I don't like it. Perhaps it is your upbringing in a pentacostal denomination that keeps you from recognizing that dicotomy, and you are still far more xtian yourself than you might believe. 

I consider myself to be quite blessed to not have been raised in xtianity, nor steeped in any particular halacha as a Jew. I get to choose my way, guided by the Tanakh, and by G-d. Just the remnants of that mindset that float in the western consciousness are hard to avoid, but I do so by not connecting myself to any xtian ideas or practices as is possible. But I do admit that it completely confuses the xtians I know, as they do not undnerstand the Hebraic mindset. And those Gentiles seeking to shed their xtianity need to begin by following what is written in the Torah, and taught upon in midrashic form in the Apostolic writings, as those who are called Messianic Gentiles do so now.

But if your understanding of what a Messianic Jew is, is so codified as a denomination of xtianity, so be it. It simply means that you cannot divest yourself of xtian thought anymore than other xtians do.

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Ya still have the 'god problem'. What concrete evidence do you have to support your beliefs?

Fulfilled prophecy, and lots of it. Most importantly as 'hard' proof is that Israel is reborn, complete with original language, as stated :

For then I will restore to the peoples a pure language, That they all may call on the name of YHWH, To serve Him with one accord. (Zephaniah 3:9)

Thus says YHWH Tsavaot, the God of Israel: “They shall again use this speech in the land of Judah and in its cities, when I bring back their captivity: ‘YHWH bless you, O home of justice, and mountain of holiness!’ (Jeremiah 31:23)

Much other prophecy is scattered throughout Ezekial 25-48, but you will need to read the entire 'Old Testament' for the underlying concepts and other relevant prophecies, but the heart of the matter is:

Then say to them, 'Thus says YHWH Elohim: "Surely I will take the children of Israel from among the nations, wherever they have gone, and will gather them from every side and bring them into their own land;  (Ezekial 37:21)

And if you think what happens to Israel doesn't matter, or that prophecy is irrelelvant, why do much of the world's population hate Jews with a passion greater than they have for life? After all, there are currently only about 14 million of us worldwide, and yet, we are the world's essential enemy . . . and have been since about 1400 BC.