(July 9, 2024 at 3:00 pm)Disagreeable Wrote: But I'm saying the truth may be opinion independent, but not mind independent. What say you to that?I would ask what you mean by "truth", and admit when it comes to that that I am out of my depth and a philosophical slug. That is why I prefer to categorise based on the lines of cognitivism/non-congitivism, error-theory vs moral realism and in some schemes subjectivism etc. That way I know what the terms mean
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It can be wrong according to the truth. The truth doesn't have to be mind-independent. Right?
what do you mean by "opinion independent" but not "mind independent"? To my mind an opinion is an artefact of the mind, are you saying that it is something of the mind but not opinion? If so, do you mean it is an expression of emotion / desire/ preference etc as expressivism would have?