(July 14, 2024 at 2:30 pm)Ferrocyanide Wrote: I can’t tell the difference between Universe A and Universe B. Both seem identical to me.Honestly, I can't imagine how could there is no God.
1. Universe A: the jewish god exists. He created the stuff and lifeform on this planet. Everything is artificial. He doesn’t show himself.
2. Universe B: No gods exists. Everything is natural.
If you want to believe that the jewish god exists outside this universe, I can use another name. Let’s call it Puniverse.
1. In Puniverse A, there is the jewish god and he created Universe A in Puniverse A.
2. In Puniverse B, natural processes transformed some stuff into Universe B. There are no gods. Everything is natural.
So, like I said, both seem identical to me.
I see no reason for there being 1 god and for him to remain in hiding, I see no reason for out of the hundreds or thousands of religions that various cultures have created, only 1 happens to be the correct one.
In fact, quite a lot of cultures view their religions as the correct religion.
Apparently, this god would have existed forever and suddenly, at some point decides to create humans.
You or this prophet would have to give a pretty solid explanation on that one. There is no excuse for not having an answer.
But okay I try to understand you better.
You said that there was no difference with universe A and universe B
You said everything is natural in universe B
But the fact is religions always there. If there was really no God, could you agree with me the consequence:
There would be no "conversation of God" exist among humans.
“The conversations of God” exist is something odd in universe B.
This is because, theoritically, they would just face the reality with occam's razor principe. Why they would crafted some "imagination about supranatural thing"? That were useless and has no effect with their daily life?
You would say, it because they were not enlightned by science yet. But they were actually have known practical science like :how to eat some food, which one food that are not poisonous, which water that could be drinked, how to make weapon to hunt animals, and many more. They were smart as well as us.
Even the new discoveries found that some animals had their religious sense. Chimpanzees in West Africa have been spotted banging and throwing rocks against trees and throwing them into gaps inside, leading to piles of rocks. Those rocks do not appear to be for any functional purpose — and might be an example of an early version of ritual behaviour. (Mysterious chimpanzee behaviour could be ‘sacred rituals’ and show that chimps believe in god – The Independent-, 4 March 2016)
The "imagination about supranatural thing" that I means actually the concept of one God that omniscience and omnipotent actually widespread in every culture and every time. Later on I will give evidence in this topic insha Allah.