Dualism

[fr0d0]

you are really talking a different language and adding new conditions to your claim.

Well it's certainly a language foreign to you. Misinterpret that to your hearts content. I'm past caring with your games. I've tried to answer every single point you've made and all you've done is dodge and evade and make rude remarks.

This is a very clear case for anyone reading this thread of diversion from your original claim. And that while I have asked you over and over to be accurate in your phrasing. A good debater knows when he is wrong. Deal with it.

I'm trying to answer your direct questions. I'm sorry but your conduct is beyond idiotic. Go back and read what you're supposed to be talking about and address some points.

2. You asked for biblical affirmation and now you're criticising me for my limited sources!!! The statement holds true outside the bible like I said. This is one wildly fallacious statement. Please reign it in a bit.

I merely followed the leads you gave me. You claimed that god’s existence is unprovable by definition.

I claimed nothing, like I've said over and over again. How moronic of you. I have suggested that idea for people to challenge. That is all. I have made no final conclusion. Do you not read?

So I asked for your definition. You answered that the bible contains your definition.

No I didn't. Another unbelievably idiotic conclusion. I offered what I consider to be a statement of support.

So I asked where the bible says that god’s existence is unknowable and you answered that in Exodus 33 such is the case, not even being relevant if that really is what Exodus 33 says.

You talk complete mumbo jumbo. 1. you didn't bother to check out what you asked for. 2. you were unable to grasp what exodus 33 might be saying.

Now you want to escape to definitions outside the bible.

Now!! Now!!! LMAO

All I've ever done is used logic outside the bible. I've demonstrated that with this discussion with you now. You're either not paying any attention or you're completely blinkered to your already formed conclusions. Which is it?

The problem is you don’t see that the illogic starts with your assertion that god in unprovable by definition. No matter what definition you seek inside or outside the bible, if it states that god is unprovable or you assert that such is the case your reasoning becomes circular: god’s existence is unprovable because the definition of god says so.

You're being an utter twat. Go read what I've already said to you.. only this time try to work out what I meant ok?

So, don’t throw any claims of being “wildly fallacious” at me. Again a good debater should know when he is wrong. This is in no way an invalidation of you as a person or of your right to believe what you believe. It is end of story this time for your line of reasoning pursued in this thread. Clean up your logic and start over again.

LMAO. It is you my friend that has led us into this particular quagmire. Forgive me for trying to answer you concisely. I'll know in future that you are seriously not worth the effort.

I therefore strongly urge you to reconsider your attitude in this debate. When you show no clear signs of adhering to basic debating hygiene as suggested in the above then there is no reason for us to continue this debate any longer.

I seriously have no wish to indulge your verbal diarrhea any longer. I agree to cease.

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God tells Moses in Exodus 33 that no one can see him, but only see where he has been. To me this is a definite statement regarding proof of God not being possible.

The Old Testament ,written by many persons as it is proved by the at last four styles of writing named E,J,P and D ,written and rewritten along history for many times, can by no means be quoted as proving something one way or another concerning the existence of God.

I never said it did. Rabbit asked for a quote of support from the bible and I offered this one. I never said I had biblical quotes of support. All I've ever said is that it seems to follow the logic and be a 'signature' of God.

In a serious debate it is ,in my opinion no place for quoting not a single sentence from the Bible unless the debate is of a theological kind just misplaced in an atheist forum.

I repeat, Rabbit made a direct request for an example of God's non provability from the bible.

Does it say in the bible that the existence of god is unprovable. If yes, in what verse?

Did you miss that?

Of course to anyone not accepting the bible as containing truths doesn't see any more validity to it's statements above any other book.